I own both, love both, but haven't yet set them up side-by-side for a shootout.
Enjoy your Rat2.
Steve
The black secret has more bottom end/ lower mids at all settings so it sounds a little thicker. That means that with the gain maxed it's a little more blown out sounding, but at lower settings it's pretty damn cool.
Originally Posted by telephant
Tone is really half the argument. We both know ultimately it means nothing. Write a song. Write. A fucking. Song.
The black secret has more bottom end/ lower mids at all settings so it sounds a little thicker. That means that with the gain maxed it's a little more blown out sounding, but at lower settings it's pretty damn cool.
If I was the only guitarist in the band I'd consider this a little more, but since there is two guitarists I'm not fussed about too many lower mids/bottom end at the moment.
The black secret has more bottom end/ lower mids at all settings so it sounds a little thicker. That means that with the gain maxed it's a little more blown out sounding, but at lower settings it's pretty damn cool.
If I was the only guitarist in the band I'd consider this a little more, but since there is two guitarists I'm not fussed about too many lower mids/bottom end at the moment.
If I was the only guitarist in the band I'd consider this a little more, but since there is two guitarists I'm not fussed about too many lower mids/bottom end at the moment.
Sounds sensible. Also it'd totally depends on the rest of your setup as to which one works better anyway. I prefer the Rat to the Black secret because it's a better shape to stomp on.
Originally Posted by telephant
Tone is really half the argument. We both know ultimately it means nothing. Write a song. Write. A fucking. Song.
If I was the only guitarist in the band I'd consider this a little more, but since there is two guitarists I'm not fussed about too many lower mids/bottom end at the moment.
Sounds sensible. Also it'd totally depends on the rest of your setup as to which one works better anyway. I prefer the Rat to the Black secret because it's a better shape to stomp on.
Originally Posted by telephant
Tone is really half the argument. We both know ultimately it means nothing. Write a song. Write. A fucking. Song.
Sounds sensible. Also it'd totally depends on the rest of your setup as to which one works better anyway. I prefer the Rat to the Black secret because it's a better shape to stomp on.
Yeah I have my pitch box sideways on my board so I am less likely to stomp on the controls.
Sounds sensible. Also it'd totally depends on the rest of your setup as to which one works better anyway. I prefer the Rat to the Black secret because it's a better shape to stomp on.
Yeah I have my pitch box sideways on my board so I am less likely to stomp on the controls.
I don't know which songs specifically, but I know that David Gilmour used one extensively and a RAT was also all over early foo fighters albums. Jeff Beck has been known to use them also, Coldplay, there's so many bands out there using one now.
I don't know which songs specifically, but I know that David Gilmour used one extensively and a RAT was also all over early foo fighters albums. Jeff Beck has been known to use them also, Coldplay, there's so many bands out there using one now.
Yep he used it on Pulse tour. In fact he ditched his Fuzz faces in favor of EQ'd Rat II. I saw them on that tour. I wouldn't be surprised if he used through out the whole show..
Yep he used it on Pulse tour. In fact he ditched his Fuzz faces in favor of EQ'd Rat II. I saw them on that tour. I wouldn't be surprised if he used through out the whole show..
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