06-24-2013 08:23 PM - edited 06-24-2013 08:25 PM
OK so things have changed, but what exactly brought this forum from hundreds of participating members down to about 6?
What could be done constructively to get the joint a rockin' again?
06-24-2013 08:27 PM
06-24-2013 08:30 PM
06-24-2013 10:21 PM
I haven't checked in here in about 3 months. I lost my profile and post count, tried to get it back, no reply.
they really **** this place, **** idiots
06-25-2013 01:17 AM
06-25-2013 01:18 AM
06-25-2013 03:04 AM
one thing for me personal, i got bored
yet another new delay pedal, yet another new fuzz, yet another you name it
i'm now around 30 pedals i have, my base is set i use only ten or so of them on my board and nothing really new gets out what makes me interested
once you are somehow settled, yet another new pedal doing something what you can do with something you already have is just boring
i love the ehx effectology series, which displays creative usage of efx's of all kinds, beside its an great ehx marketing strategy, unfortunately rupert is the only one doing so, other members myself included could also bring their insides, but don't
i loved also seifs videos and bieke's threads
but beside that, there is not so much new in the past two or three years
and than the inevitable change of the software needed to come and all blamed it on the software, but the interesting content was already gone before, beside the great octophant project
hey its not the software the board runs, its the members which contribute and share and if all is just a NPD with yet another xyz it will not make it better...
note to myself, i need to produce clips of my new amp, so a can give an impression for the guys here who asked for it
06-25-2013 07:12 AM
06-25-2013 07:46 AM
06-25-2013 08:25 AM
The reason people left is because the problems with the old site + the more than piss poor transition into the new site + the drastic changes + the downtimes + not listening to what the forum members wanted combined with loads of lost accounts **** this place in the ass.
^^^ plus the censoring
I don't know if it's because HC lost site of what their site actually is and tried to make it some shiny new facebook-esq forum to attract young kids and add space, or if they were just plagued with horrible site design and programmers.
Whoever made this new site destroyed it. I feel really bad about that, because this was such a great place at one time. I personally don't like tgp, it's filled with uptight non-musicians, people who are more concerned with pissing contests in what gear they can buy, yet tend to lack any real skill or love for music itself.
I'm a comp sci major, one thing we learned about software and website design is that, unless it's something brand new and revolutionary, you can't transform software making it more difficult to use and you can never eliminate features...... that's so **** backwards it's insane. More restrictions, difficult navigation, unfamiliar design, HARD-To-Read = horrible implementation. Simple things like hovering to preview threads.... just gone. Insanely bad.
If I were in Harmony Central's shoes, with is what I would do....
(i know HC won't listen but it's the easiest way to get back their site)
Bring it back to the old site.
if you can't do that, make it LOOK and Function identically to the old site (perhaps with some enhanced features) Remember that enhancing features means making things easier, not more complex.
Give everyone back their account and post-count.
After this is done, email everyone who was once a member and let them know the old site is back and so is their acount.
After that, make a huge sticky, promising HC users that you will never change the site or it's features unless the feature or change is voted in. Get rid of the censoring..
Give something back to the old users, either a discount, something.... give incentive for these people to come back and reward their long-time contribution to the forum.
After this happens there will be several threads on other sites, "Harmony Central is Back!!" some people will rush back, some will still be pissed, but if you give enough rewards and incentive they will come back.
HC basically said **** you to their forum contributors and now they are paying for it, do something to win them back.... or you're hooped.
I understand censoring, and new site design is attractive for adds and whatnot, but in the end advertising only pays off when your site has real traffic volume. I've been hanging on here a while, but it's just too dead to bother checking anymore..... I'd consider making a big move, because it's not getting any better.
06-25-2013 09:10 AM
I'm with V; there were a couple of hiccups, but it seems the "community" bonds weren't really very strong for the attrition to have been what it has.
I attribute that to the following:
* Overall limited attention span of forumites
* Poor overall site management (Phil seems to me to be the one competent individual involved)
* Disconnect between forumites and site management (more or less acknowledged by site managers in several posts where they discussed new directions, appealing to wider/different audience, etc.)
If I were dependent on page-views for my income/job performance, I guess I'd be very nervous, but in terms of actual, useful information about effects, the decline has not been proportionate (let's say a decline in useful info of 50%, whereas page views are down far more than that).
Which means the butt-grabbing more or less evaporated. Some things left with it, and others stayed behind.
06-25-2013 09:46 AM