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Re: I may be a PRS convert

No, it's a maple cap. Maybe not thick, but it's not a photo top. I think their solid colors do not have the maple top. If it was fake, they would probably have the grain match up perfectly, and every guitar would look the same, they don't. Sweetwater will often have multiple models of the same guitar, and you can look at each one, and see which pattern you like the best.

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Re: I may be a PRS convert

For sub $500, that's a nice guitar. I think the problem people have with PRSi aside from the lame artist references are the crazy high prices.

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Re: I may be a PRS convert


TomVanDeven wrote:
For sub $500, that's a nice guitar. I think the problem people have with PRSi aside from the lame artist references are the crazy high prices.

Happy NGD man, enjoy it!

Thanks TVD. I would agree, but their USA line is in the same range as Gibson and Fender stuff, especially when you compare some of the CS stuff. Gibson is now offering some sub $1k offerings, but their quality has been questionable at times. Whereas the SE line has come up in quality. But yeah the USA models don't offer much under $2k for the most part. Looking on ebay though, they seem to hold their value better than most brands.

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What's with people calling them 'PRSi'? Is that the plural of a PRS?

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Nice looking guitar, IRG.  I'm usually not a fan of PRS guitars, but they had one of the sweetest displays at NAMM last week.  One room full of their SE line, signature series and custom instruments, right next to a gig room with a stage and an awesome sound setup.

 

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green flame owl guitars are the reason prs gets a bad rap. for the most part theyre tacky, tasteless, and over the top.

(i used to have an se that i kind of enjoyed for several years. theyre not terrible instuments, but theyre the hummer stretch limo of the guitar world.)

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I'm not into PRS, or any other 'nice' looking guitars for that matter. To each their own I guess. I suppose one of the reasons PRS insn't popular amongs guys like me, is because of the competition they get of big brands like Gretsch, Gibson, Fender, Rickenbacker, etc...

The only band I personally know that doesn't suck that has a guitarist who plays a PRS: Minus the bear. Othe than that it's just Creed and Nu-metal:s

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Re: I may be a PRS convert

I don't like prs guitars for the sane reason I don't like Taylor: machine made. Soulless, tacky, over the top pieces of furniture.

To get more specific, prs necks are far too thin for me, and since they are made by machine, they are all exactly the same. No variation. Boring.

Taylor guitars are just as bad. The only Taylor I've ever played that I liked was a gs mini at my store. And we are a Taylor dealer, we have everything. I hate it all. Eastman kills them.

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Lol, you think Fender isn't machine made?
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The wide-thin is unbelievably comfortable. I like an over-the-top quilt but draw the line at owls, unless they're quilted too of course.

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Re: I may be a PRS convert

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echodeluxe wrote:
I don't like prs guitars for the sane reason I don't like Taylor: machine made. Soulless, tacky, over the top pieces of furniture.

To get more specific, prs necks are far too thin for me, and since they are made by machine, they are all exactly the same. No variation. Boring.

Taylor guitars are just as bad. The only Taylor I've ever played that I liked was a gs mini at my store. And we are a Taylor dealer, we have everything. I hate it all. Eastman kills them.

But happy new guitar day!

You just made me realize that PRS is like the Taylor of electric guitars. Or maybe Taylor is the PRS is acoustic guitars, either way they have basically the same vibe: usually tacky looking and fairly generic playing/sounding guitars built to "modern" specs that are stereotypically owned by people that attract a lot of hate. I see (and share, btw) the same opinions both companies from both sides of the playing world. It's kind of spooky.

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Re: I may be a PRS convert

Damnit IRG, I want that Blues Junior you just got AND that PRS.

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I had a PRS custom 24 at my house for like a week, and it was an amazing player. HOWEVER, my credz aren't high enough to play one ironically, and I'm incredibly shallow.
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Damnit IRG, I want that Blues Junior you just got AND that PRS.


I dunno Zappa, better watch out, or you'll get the wrath of Echo and others here :smileyvery-happy:  The Humboldt is pretty darn good. Nice platform for pedals, nice clean tone on its own too. Reverb on it is much better than my AC15. Seems to go louder and cleaner too. The EQ is also a bit more effective. I like the fat boost switch for my Tele, but prefer it off for humbuckers.

 

I like most gear, I usually see the good in things, not the bad. The PRS stuff just kicks ass, plain and simple. Calling it "machine made" is absolutely funny. So is Fender, Squier, Gibson, Epiphone, Martin, ETC, ETC. How fucking stupid are my fellow forumites here? Clearly it's a different bias at work. Listen to your ears and hands, not some stupid philosophy. None of these brands make stuff hand made. Just too inefficent. There was a great video someone posted in TGP on the Gibson Factory, I think it was made by Premier Guitar magazine. Very fascinating video, about 32 minutes long, but well worth it. Machines everywhere, but yes, some hand finishing too. THe problem is, that's where their "variety" tends to come into play, for better or worse. And seemingly more often the latter. Not sure if PRS does hand finishing too on the USA and Private Stock guitars, probably, but I have a feeling they're just better craftsman, and a better system. Same with Taylor, very little variation, which means you get an extremely well made, consistent guitar from store to store. You don't have to hunt through 20 different models looking for "the one".  You get the "one" every time!

 

From an aesthetic stand point, that's a different issue. PRS does have the reputation for making some over the top stuff, but apparently their customers like that. But even then, their playability and tone is still top notch. Gibson makes some very odd looking stuff too. And you have to after a while, how boring would it be if you made a LP look the same time after time, or an SG look the same, etc. And speaking of Taylor, my DN-3 is probably the most understated dreadnaught out there. Sounds good too, and plays like an electric. That's why I got it instead of others.  

 

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carrier street wrote:
I had a PRS custom 24 at my house for like a week, and it was an amazing player. HOWEVER, my credz aren't high enough to play one ironically, and I'm incredibly shallow.

Ahhh. I'm sure you have the credz to play it wherever you want to :smileyhappy:   Was this a USA version? I was never quite a fan of that body style, but now I'm really liking it. The Studio and 408 seem really cool too.

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Ben Lubin wrote:

What's with people calling them 'PRSi'? Is that the plural of a PRS?


Never heard that before.

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DISCLAIMER:  I DO NOT LISTEN TO CREED/SANTANA.

Now...I completly understand not liking the high prices and the transparent finishes with the maple top visible, but the rest of the PRS hate in here seems pretty absurb.

 

- The play great

- They sound great

- They are made from high quality parts

- The quality control is amazing

 

And not liking the consitency of the necks because the a machine is spec'd for consistancy?  What guitars are you buying that DON'T do that for a reasonable price?!  I think PRS is cool to hate on because most you guys don't own them and label them as "lawyer guitars" and think that somehow hating on them earns you indie cred or something.  Sheesh...

 

Oh, and even though I don't really like most they're finishes, the ones I do like tend to be some of my favorite guitars asthetically.  I really dig the body shape on PRS guitars as well.

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The only band I personally know that doesn't suck that has a guitarist who plays a PRS: Minus the bear. Othe than that it's just Creed and Nu-metal:s


 

I don't think that's a fair representation really. A bunch of metal bands, yes, not just Nu-metal though (not sure how big that genre is today). They seem to have a lot of jazz players too, and just basic rock. Don't see a lot of blues players using PRS, but maybe they do. I think there's a lot of local/small touring bands using PRS these days. And sure, there's the collectors too, but they covet Gibson first, Fender second (and quite a distant second), and the others as well. PRS grew because their quality was better than the competition at the time, and they seemed to listen to their customers a lot more than the big two. Though they're seemingly trying to do the same now too. I feel like PRS is a guitar company. Fender is a corporate conglomerate. I still like them, but I don't see them as just a guitar company anymore. Same with Gibson, but less so.

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Re: I may be a PRS convert


IRG wrote:

Zappa74 wrote:
Damnit IRG, I want that Blues Junior you just got AND that PRS.


I dunno Zappa, better watch out, or you'll get the wrath of Echo and others here :smileyvery-happy:  


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I've been playing a set neck Ibanez with a quilt top for about 7 years now.  It was the most comfortable, good sounding guitar I played when shopping so I bought it.  I'm with you, and that PRS is bitchin.  Really dig the no binding on the neck.

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MacBradley wrote:

DISCLAIMER:  I DO NOT LISTEN TO CREED/SANTANA.

Now...I completly understand not liking the high prices and the transparent finishes with the maple top visible, but the rest of the PRS hate in here seems pretty absurb.

 

- The play great

- They sound great

- They are made from high quality parts

- The quality control is amazing

 

And not liking the consitency of the necks because the a machine is spec'd for consistancy?  What guitars are you buying that DON'T do that for a reasonable price?!  I think PRS is cool to hate on because most you guys don't own them and label them as "lawyer guitars" and think that somehow hating on them earns you indie cred or something.  Sheesh...

 

Oh, and even though I don't really like most they're finishes, the ones I do like tend to be some of my favorite guitars asthetically.  I really dig the body shape on PRS guitars as well.

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Well said, my feelings exactly. 

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