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Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

So I don't even necessarily know what to call it, but I'm sure everyone know's what I'm talking about (or trying to)

I would love to have an OD pedal that slowly drives my signal after I click it, for a really dynamic build. For maybe like 2 seconds. Is there a term I could be using to be current, and does it exist?
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

I think what you want is a slow gear (or equivalent) into an overdrive. That or a volume pedal so you can swell at your own pace every time.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

Hmm, Boss GT series with an 'internal pedal' assigned to drive and activated from the ctl pedal etc....
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

an OD with an exp. in linked to the gain would do that, albeit manually. I only know of the toneczar pedals having that though, which is $$$.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

DOD Swell Pedal + an overdrive pedal would do this. The swell has to be triggered by your foot, though. For a while, I used mine for a controlled feedback, it worked great because it slowly ramped the gain up as the note was dying out.



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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

Imagine this: An external bypass box where you would hook up an existing pedal (overdrive, etc) into the loop. There would be three controls: level, entrance time and exit time. Level would control the initial blend of the dry signal and the effected signal. When the switch is activated, a microcontroler would turn a digital pot at the speed the entrance control is set at, effectively turning a blend control for you. Exit speed would be the same thing but the time it takes to blend back to the initial setting. I should probably try coding this when I get home
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

i remember something about an envelope controlled effects loop, and it having something to do with devi anyone know what i'm talking about?
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

Depends what you want from it. With GT units you can set the rise time and it will rise regardless of your dynamics and without the need for expression pedal.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

Just put a volume pedal before a dirt... a good dirt that has lots of dynamic range. At a certain volume it will be clean, and as you ramp up the pedal will start to drive. Don't over complicate things.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

i remember something about an envelope controlled effects loop, and it having something to do with devi
anyone know what i'm talking about?


are you thinking of the toadworks enveloope maybe?

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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

i don't remember it looking like that but it is exactly the type of thing i'm talking about so thanks!
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

There was an akai overdrive pedal a few years ago that had a built in expression pedal. Also, with the line 6 m series pedals, you can assign an expression pedal to the drive knob of an overdrive sim. To have it trigger off an envelope, you need some kind of swell pedal approach, like described above.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

Pigtronix Keymaster with whatever overdrive you want to use patched into one of the loops. You can then use an expression pedal to mix it in at whatever rate you prefer.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

interesting! awesome
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

this could be of use too, I've been pondering picking up one but it's a bit pricy: http://coopersonic.bigcartel.com/product/coopersonic-fader-pedal [video=youtube;35YalCDhzAI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35YalCDhzAI[/video] put it after a distortion, put both into a bypass loop w/ blend. set the fader pedal to whatever fade in/out time you want? would actually be cool if they made one with a loop that they fade in/out.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

There was an akai overdrive pedal a few years ago that had a built in expression pedal. Also, with the line 6 m series pedals, you can assign an expression pedal to the drive knob of an overdrive sim. To have it trigger off an envelope, you need some kind of swell pedal approach, like described above.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

I'm not 100% what the original poster wants, but those volume fader pedals will bring you in from 0% volume > 100% (assumably). I'm not sure if this dude wants the distorting sound to be fading in from the clean sound, which would be different to this. This would leave a few options. Running clean and distortion parallel, and using a volume to bring in the gain side. A Boss LS-2 with distortion and volume fader/volume pedal in a loop. A Keymaster with distortion in loop w/ exp pedal. Or Dr. Scientist Elements w/ exp pedal.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

Dr. Scientist Elements w/ exp pedal.
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

i remember something about an envelope controlled effects loop, and it having something to do with devi anyone know what i'm talking about?
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Re: Calling all stompbox brains... 'Delayed' Overdrive?

Just put a volume pedal before a dirt... a good dirt that has lots of dynamic range. At a certain volume it will be clean, and as you ramp up the pedal will start to drive. Don't over complicate things.
This seems most desirable - Could a Volume/Expression pedal effect 100% wet signal of the OD tho? So I wouldn't lose all clean volume with the exp. rocked all the way back?
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