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7 String Guitars

I never really considered one before. Now, maybe I might. I was looking at the new (not out yet I don't think) PRS SE Custom 24 7 string, and it seems kinda cool. Set up for a low B string - is this normally how 7 string guitars come? Never paid attention to them before.  Other affordable 7 string guitars out there I should look at? I know this is usually the heavier type guitars, Schecter, etc.

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Phil O'Keefe
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Re: 7 String Guitars

I believe ESP makes some 7 string models too. For those on a budget, so does Rondo.

 

 

 

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Re: 7 String Guitars

B on the low string is standard.

i'm suprised at the lack of Fender/Epiphone 7-strings that aren't aimed at the metal crowd.

i'd like a 7-string, over a baritone, but don't want EMG or distortion-centric pickups.

7-string hardtail Jazzmaster / 335 would be nice.

weren't jazz guys using 7strings before Korn arrived?
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Re: 7 String Guitars

Squier made a 7 string briefly during the nu-metal craze, but it was definitely a metal guitar.  I believe epiphone has made a 7 string before also, but again it was metal-oriented. 


Besides the PRS, currently rondo, ibanez, schecter, esp and jackson are the only companies making budget 7 strings. 


Jazz guys were playing 7 strings first.  Bendetto makes nice 7 string archtops.  I know several of them tune the low b to a. 

The 7 string metal guitar as we know it was pioneered by Vai, but he originally wanted the 7th string to be a high string, higher than a high e.  They couldn't get it to work, the string kept breaking, so he went for the low B.  Similarly, Wes Borland had two high e's tuned in unison on his 7 strings, and the other strings were tuned as normal (though down a step and a half, IIRC).

 

 

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Re: 7 String Guitars

Low is good. I've never played a 7 string that didn't have an uncomfortably thin/wide/flat neck - but I have only played ones that came out around the whole numetal time. Schecter may have some 7 strings with passive pickups, but I'm not sure.
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Re: 7 String Guitars

THe PRS doesn't have the metal look. Although the video included only plays the genre http://www.prsguitars.com/secustom7string/index.php

 

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Re: 7 String Guitars

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mdrake34 wrote:

Squier made a 7 string briefly during the nu-metal craze, but it was definitely a metal guitar.  I believe epiphone has made a 7 string before also, but again it was metal-oriented. 


Besides the PRS, currently rondo, ibanez, schecter, esp and jackson are the only companies making budget 7 strings. 


Jazz guys were playing 7 strings first.  Bendetto makes nice 7 string archtops.  I know several of them tune the low b to a. 

The 7 string metal guitar as we know it was pioneered by Vai, but he originally wanted the 7th string to be a high string, higher than a high e.  They couldn't get it to work, the string kept breaking, so he went for the low B.  Similarly, Wes Borland had two high e's tuned in unison on his 7 strings, and the other strings were tuned as normal (though down a step and a half, IIRC).

 

 


 Interesting. I like the idea of a lower string. I certainly don't need a string higher than E, no wonder Vai couldn't get that to work.  It would seem to appeal to jazz players I would think. You could almost set the lowest string as more of a percusive sound using your thumb, sort of like playing a bass.  

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Re: 7 String Guitars

Ibanez announed this at Namm 2013:

Ibanez AFJ957

 

MSRP $1100, Street $799

15.75" Lower Bout
3 5/8" Deep
Spruce top/Flamed Maple back and sides
3 piece Mahogany/Maple set-in Neck
Bound Rosewood Fretboard with Pearl block inlay
24.7" Scale
ACH 7 Pickups

 

Most 7 string jazz players tune the bottom string to A (the George Van Eps influence).

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Re: 7 String Guitars

I don't mind the idea of extended range, but the extra neck width needed for the extra string just makes the instrument too uncomfortable for me to play. Same with most five and six string basses. So my solution is to have a regular baritone (tuned to B E A D F# B) and use that when I need the lower range.

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Re: 7 String Guitars

That Ibanez jazz box looks really cool!

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Re: 7 String Guitars

Teuffel Tesla.  Want. (about 8 grand). :manindifferent:

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Re: 7 String Guitars

guys guys guys guys

go get a beater guitar, get a set of 7 string guitar strings, dont use the high e, widen the string slots in the nut


boom, you get the low 7 string range for little tio no cash to test out of you dig it enough to then get the full 7


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Re: 7 String Guitars


A.P. Ryder wrote:

Teuffel Tesla.  Want. (about 8 grand). :manindifferent:


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Re: 7 String Guitars

8 grand?!?! Why the fuck would a guitar cost 8 grand?
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Re: 7 String Guitars


t-rey wrote:
8 grand?!?! Why the fuck would a guitar cost 8 grand?

 

Because high end guitars are expensive.

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Re: 7 String Guitars

Here's a pretty good demo of the PRS SE Custom 7 string. Definitely doesn't have that metal vibe to it.

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Re: 7 String Guitars

That's it.

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Re: 7 String Guitars

IRG does love a PRS.
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