01-23-2013 04:41 AM
I encountered a reality with one of my bands where I may want to switch hi-hats amidst a gig. There's a lot of little details that go into this, including feel, dynamics, sound, etc, but it's something I may want to do.
I guess I question whether it would be worth it. Having two hi-hat set-ups isn't really an option, and it certainly adds some weight to the cymbal bag... any of you cats use varying cymbals within a show, like swapping hi-hats or ride cymbals?
01-23-2013 04:51 AM
01-23-2013 05:01 AM
Never done this and have not seen it done. Most cover drummers I've seen when faced with gear dilemmas just do the best approximations they can. The better ones and their bands are always blend concious so you don't feel the instrumentation is wrong even if it is. That said and continuing off the top of my head, if you feel the need for an alternate set, it's only a pair of cymbals, go for it.
01-23-2013 05:24 AM
01-23-2013 05:47 AM
I've never changed Hi-hats mid show, but I have (on rare occasions) changed a crash out for a smaller/bigger crash or a china instead of a crash. I think changing out a HH may is a bit more involved and you're really pushing for time. If it's a cover gig, and you have a set break it could work. The question is two-fold,
1) Is this 2nd set of hats for one song or many?
2) If #1 is "many", Could you arrange the set so those songs are all together?
My opinion is that I believe the "return on investment" of time, engery, and weight isn't worth bringing extra hats. I seriously doubt anyone else in the band or audience would know the difference.
01-23-2013 07:35 AM
01-23-2013 10:17 PM
01-24-2013 05:35 AM
Thanks for all the feedback, guys! It would take half a day to explain the mind-set I have, what I want to hear, my set up, my playing style, yadda yadda... we all know the variations of someone's gear usage and their needs.
I was looking more for whether someone has done this or seen some pros and cons... at the end of the day, I'll likely just stick to one pair, but I thought I'd see what the ol' HC sounding board thought. Thanks again!
01-24-2013 03:58 PM
I carry two bags worth of cymbals to many of my shows, but they all go on the kit at once, and Ive got hats on both sides. (You wouldnt believe the applications of open handed hats from either side!)
But onto your specific issue of swapping out hats, or any other cymbals.
For hats, it really isnt that much more weight unless you are talking some really heavy 15-16" guys. And if you pre screw on a second clutch, then its a quick drop and tighten job which could be done in seconds between songs.
As for other cymbals, I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Tama quick release toppers, you can change an entire kit of cymbals out in moments with no worries.
01-25-2013 09:47 AM
Take a poll after the gig and see if anyone in the room noticed the different sound on that song or songs. Drummers don't count. (In a manner of speaking.)
01-26-2013 04:11 PM
Take a poll after the gig and see if anyone in the room noticed the different sound on that song or songs.
That's exactly what I thought. For all our agonizing over nuance, live cymbal sound is most often dismally homogenous...especially to the common listener.
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