05-21-2007 01:55 PM
05-21-2007 03:34 PM
05-22-2007 08:12 AM
05-22-2007 12:04 PM
Firstly, how can you be so sure that all new sources of wood are dubious? If they are you should stop supporting the music business altogether because use of industrial woods is very deeply rooted int he manufacture of guitars, basses, violins, pianos, dulcimers, etc.
05-24-2007 07:42 AM
05-24-2007 08:15 AM
I like the way you think thik mike.
I was reading about tonewoods and luthiers etc before deciding on what sort of wood to use to make a little bridge for an old archtop, I decided on ebony and ,rather than pulling the leg of my grannies old sideboard and considering the work involved I bought a small peace of eboney tonewood of ebay for a fiver.
I was reading up on how some luthiers who sell those 5 grand type handmade guitars use a blank peice of wood that they baught for $500 with just enough to make the fretboard.
And they go on about how good tone wood must come from trees that were lumbered during the coldest freezing part of the year and then giving several years to dry out.
This makes sence if we remember that wood is/was a living thing. every peice of wood is completely different even if it came from the same tree.
I always wondered if old peice of furniture from 19 canteen would be good for guitar building,you see them in skips all the time
Im sinical about so called tonewood salesmen
05-24-2007 08:58 AM
05-24-2007 01:16 PM
Im looking at my Ikea furniture haha
Youre right about the hands but its mostly in the mind, if you can focus properly l00%
I carved a good archtop bridge using a peice of ebony ,a peice of bone for the saddle all with a stanley an a bit of sandpaper.and its much beter than the one it replaced.
03-19-2013 07:20 PM
03-22-2013 04:22 AM
The wood doesn't have to be a piano, it can be from anything made of wood. I built my last three electrics from antique wood over 200 years old from shelving inside an old dresser. My buddy restores antique furniture and the own wanted illuminated glass shelving inside to show off his collection so he had the shelves laying around and gave them to me.
The one guitar I used a Walnut top, Rosewood back and maple sides in a semi hollow build. Used a Tele neck and Gibson bridge and tailpiece, with mini humbuckers and it came out great. It's my number 1 or two over all my other guitars. A second I made was from a maple slab butcher block. It was found on the street floating around after a major hurricane here. I made a similar build and it too is a killer guitar. I have several others built with chunks of wood scavenged.
if you did use a piano, the sides of the piano would probably do better for an electric over the sound board. Pianos usually have decent solid wood sides. Some may be laminated, but even with that carefully sanded down would give you a good grain.
Electrics rely less on wood tone than an acoustic does. If you're building an acoustic then the thin wood must resonate well like a diaphragm moving the air to generate good tone. The sound board of a piano would be too thick so you would have to sand it thinner for an acoustic. For an electric, you can cut several layers and laminate them together with glue for a thicker body.
Older wood has less moisture in it and the sap from the tree petrifies in the wood to make it more resonant. Wood types for instruments is usually a denser tighter grain. Softer woods that grow quickly contain allot of soft pulp which absorbs vibrations. Think of the rings in a trees wood cross section. The hard rings are the bark layer which sheds each year. The soft pulp layer is between them. If climate is good for growth, the pulp layers are thick and spongy. Wood used for a Stradivarius, was harvested after the little ice age when days were short and growth was slow. The pulp layers were thin and therefore the wood was denser and more resonant.
For electrics the best source of wood for a body is EBay. You have hundreds of body's listed that some jackass decides to refinish and botches the job because they don't take the time to learn what's involved refinishing. Many of them sell for $50 or less. You also have people buying guitars and parting them out and a perfectly good finished body can be bought cheap as well.
They also sell blanks which need to be cut and routed. If you don't have the tools and the experience to cut route and finish a blank, you will need to spend a couple of hundred buying the tools you need. Once you have the tools, and the experience it gets easier and cheaper to do a body. I suggest starting with a cheap pine or plywood blank because you will make mistakes and you don't want to be making those mistakes with high quality woods.
You can make electric bodies from non wood sources too. Plexi glass, metal, and composite resins like fiberglass particle board even MDF like in Dan electrics is all possible. It just takes a determined mind and experience using those materials.
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