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I have gigged with a Carr Rambler for over ten years. All tube guitar amp. It sounds fantastic and is not fragile or touchy. And it's definitely not junk. It's quite frankly one of the most fantastic sounding tube amps I've ever heard. But the question is more of a general question. Some tube equipment, such as some tube guitar amps, or mic preamps or tube microphones, sound fantastic, looks cool, is easy to market, and is something people want. The "easy to market" thing is important here. It's easier for people to market this than describing why a transformer is capable of imparting such a great sound. This is going to be a long, contentious thread, isn't it?
I always thought tube amps were crap. Outdated technology that is nearly impossible to get a good clean sound from. It seems like pure insanity to me that people pay more money to haul around fragile, touchy junk with huge, heavy PS and coupling transformers.
04-07-2012 10:55 AM
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This is going to be a long, contentious thread, isn't it?
04-07-2012 11:36 AM
I'd play through a transistor radio if that's all I had.
But for some players, playing through a tube amp makes them happy, so they play better.
To me, it's more about the player than the amp.
04-07-2012 11:37 AM
04-07-2012 11:39 AM
And the parts are bigger...none of the surface-mounted stuff that can be fixed only by Chinese midgets with a degree in physics.
One good thing about tube equipment is that it's easier to troubleshoot and repair than solid state equipment because it uses fewer parts for a given function.
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Well that's why I started this thread, you don't know why and Lee doesn't care why...but I'm very curious as to why. If the desirable characteristic can be identified, then it could be possible to improve on it, enhance it, or come up with useful variations. It's like people think tubes popped out of the womb fully grown and mature, but given that tubes are still being made, I'm surprised more people don't have the intellectual curiosity to see if "tubeness" could be taken even further. Or if people are, I'm not aware of it. The last thing I recall seeing was Aphex's Miller effect elimination trick which to my ears, made a MAJOR improvement in tube sound when used for preamps - as I said, it wasn't just better than solid state, it was better than tubes. Doesn't anyone want a tube amp that's better than tube amps :idk:? I suppose I should have titled this "what is the main tube characteristic people want to emulate" and that would have been clearer. In fact, I'll change the title now...I can do this, I'm a mod! Part of what got me thinking about this was playing with the XILS Synthix virtual analog synth. It really had an analog vibe to it, and trust me, I know what analog synths sound like. I spent quite a bit of time trying to figure out exactly why; I noticed that I couldn't detect any aliasing, or stepping in the filter cutoff. Also the noise level was extremely low. I think those were the main elements that made it sound "analog." Those are the kind of things I'm looking for about tubes.
I don't know why.
04-07-2012 04:43 PM
For recording, that's the holy grail. Before I had my Avalon 737sp I thought tubes would add warmth to vocals, but what they really do is add this glass like clarity, this sweet top end that is a beautiful thing to experience. It's like "looking" through perfect, clean glass at the vocal vs. scratched up, blurry plexiglass. :love: For live, you can't beat the sound of a single coil or P90 pickup through a tube amp pushed gently into power stage distortion, getting that nice magnetic saturation from the output transformer. Magic! BTW, does anyone know if it's safe to BRUTALLY GOUGE OUT the side buttons on a Logitech mouse, the ones that go foward or back in a web page? Can't count the number of times I've finished a long, carefully thought out post only to lose it all by nicking one of those two side buttons and going back or forward a page. :mad: :cry: :freak: Terry D.
tube mic preamps that are just wonderful. They have a sparkle and sweetness I not only can't get with solid state gear, I can't get it with other TUBE gear.
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