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01-18-2013 03:27 AM
I went ITB in `05 after selling a Mackie d8b. Eventually purchased a small Mackie mixer to monitor some sound mods and have a volume knob for the DAW. In the summer of `11, I finally made the dive and stopped using outboard keyboards and sound mods all together. Also purchased an Apogee Duet 2 at the time which I can not be happier about. For the price, the sound/features are outstanding.
I recently purchased a Mackie Control Universal which is pretty useful. After being ITB since 2005, I still felt the need for some faders, not necessarily a mixer. So its been great to reach for a physical button to arm tracks while recording and adjust faders.... just makes the process a whole lot easier and faster.
At this point, I don`t see myself every going back to a mixer but then again, if my recording objectives change, I may need one. Let us know how you like the Presonus. A friend of mine is currently auditioning the Yamaha O1V96i which I`ve always liked.
01-18-2013 03:57 AM
I think there's going to be more of this as DAWs and interfaces offer more control over routing, and equally important, sufficiently low latency between input and monitor output so that they're close enough to a direct analog path so that monitoring delay isn't distracting. That's where a real analog mixer is still important for some things. When the monitored signal has to pass through a computer-based DAW before getting to the headphones, only integrated systems like Pro Tools HD(X) come close to really working right. The trick is that these have the software closely integrated with the I/O hardware so that you're really monitoring through the hardware. PreSonus' latest version of Studio One and the latest firmware for their 1818VSL interface apparently has a "zero latency" mode where when you select Input Monitor in the DAW program, it engages the most-direct-as-possible monitoring path through the interface. But no matter how good the marketing department is, latency is never zero, or even as close as you can get when you're depending on electrons moving through a wire.
Ernest Buckley wrote:
I recently purchased a Mackie Control Universal which is pretty useful. After being ITB since 2005, I still felt the need for some faders, not necessarily a mixer. So its been great to reach for a physical button to arm tracks while recording and adjIust faders.... just makes the process a whole lot easier and faster.
01-19-2013 08:54 PM
I didn't purchase the 16.4.2 so much for it's mixer functionality (although I'm certain it excels on that front) as I did for all the inputs. This has double the inputs of typical rackmount FW interfaces at a price that compares with the best quality ones. I still like to use several pieces of outboard gear and I previously had to submix in order to squeeze them all into my interface without having to reconnect things.
I know very little about the mixer yet and there certainly are some differences between it and the typical rackmount unit. For example I wasn't quite sure how to get the sound out from my computer through the mixer and playing around I discovered that the sound from iTunes was playing back through channels 1 & 2 which was disappointing thinking that I had to sacrifice input channels for outputs. After doing a little reading though I discovered a way to monitor the computer output without needing to use input channels. It was a rather strange procedure to follow or understand but it works great.
01-20-2013 04:43 AM
Funny you should consider it a rack mount unit. Sure, you can, but it takes up a lot of rack space that you aren't using. I realize though, that sometimes you have to take more than you want to get what you need at the price you're willing to pay.
People have been bugging PreSonus to make a StudioLive without the control surface in a 1 or 2 space rack mount box. With the Universal Control (which you'll probably get the hang of fairly soon) you can do everything from the computer that you can from the mixer itself except grab a handful of faders. Some people are using the 1818VSL together with a computer and an iPad as their PA mixer on gigs and loving it.
01-20-2013 07:59 PM
Well it just so happened that I have a mixer rack case that I'd built a number of years ago which works perfectly for the 16.4.2. I did spend several days however rearranging things to re-incorporate it back into my studio setup.
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