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[babybatter]

The latest GP mag has Carlos talking about his new Dumble amp. He loves his boogies for his high end notes, and his dumble for his 'belly' notes.

Are these one of the uber-boutique amps? What are they made of? Are they just slightly cheaper than a new maserati?

[SomeGuyNamedRob]

I think they start at around 10 grand. And at the risk of being pegged a #8, no amp sounds that good to command that sum of money.

[Viktor Johanson]

Yep...ultra-boutique. I´m not sure about what exactly you´re paying for, but I bet they´re nice.

Maseratis are nice, too. They drink way too much, though.

I´m probably never going to own any of these anyways.

[MoosBros]

Originally posted by babybatter
The latest GP mag has Carlos talking about his new Dumble amp. He loves his boogies for his high end notes, and his dumble for his 'belly' notes.

Are these one of the uber-boutique amps? What are they made of? Are they just slightly cheaper than a new maserati?

yes,, they CAN sound that good,, and,, yes, you can buy a car for less than what one would cost you....

to the folks who diss them as not being worth what they always seem to cost.........

they hardly ever come up for re-sale.... so what does THAT say? :eek:

[Viktor Johanson]

I still think Tony Bruno can make you an identical amp for less than $4000 once he figures out all those component values.

[rangerkarlos]

I was told that after you order and pay for a Dumble, you can inquire as to it's progress exactly once. Twice, and it's NO SOUP FOR YOU!

Karlos

[The Eristic]

Alexander Dumble has stopped building amps for folks, unless they're famous. He has kept his designs confidential, to the point of putting orange synthetic goo around his "mystery" preamps, etc... His amps are said to make a sloppy player sound terrible; therefore, only very articulate players like his amps. Personally, the recordings I've heard sound good, but not enough to justify the $12k + that the amps now command.

I'm currently excited about Belov and Komet amps. I'm going to demo a Belov today, and the Komet sometime in the near future.

The Komet was designed by Ken Fischer of Trainwreck fame (the only other modern amp in the price range of Dumbles).

Btw, Two Rock makes the closest thing to a Dumble clone. They start at around $3k, for the "affordable" line and go up very quickly.

Links:

www.kometamps.com
www.belovamps.com
www.two-rock.com

[Steveascott]

Originally posted by Ove
I still think Tony Bruno can make you an identical amp for less than $4000 once he figures out all those component values.

I bet that Fab Amp guy could build you one out of a freeway sign for $150

[Shakkal]

The rarity of the amp adds to it's sale price. In their time they could take a couple of years to build, on order. I have also read what Karlos just posted, that if you inquired about your amp the contract could be automatically made void ... don't know if it's actually true.

I agree that no amp can have a sound that good to cost as much for it's sound alone. Most Dumble clones, as far as I know, cost a few grands but not as much.

Dumble sounds can be found on Robben Ford records, or Larry Carlton for that matter. Eric Johnson used a Dumble for his dirty rythm tones. SRV also used one at some point.

I am currently looking for an OD pedal that can get in the Dumble ballpark (but lacking the complexity, responsiveness, blah, blah, blah) ... maybe the Menatone Howie, Barber Burn Unit or BJF Baby Blue, or I muight just stick to my rather inexpensive Barber Direct Drive.

[Wayrockin1]

I heard some sound clips of a Fuchs that could give the Dumble OD Special a run for it's money. Also sorta pricey, though...

[koiwoi]

Aside from all of the questions of price and availability, the best live guitar tone that I've ever heard (and I've heard most of my "heros" live) was a Baker through a Dumble - played by Robben Ford. Can't describe it, just have to hear it.

I'm sure that there are lots of amps that come close and there are bound to be lots that are better, but I haven't heard them yet.

[NervePoet]

Those may look good, but when played in public, they have proven to be inferior amplifiers. Companies like Dumble, Alessandro, and Diezel mean well, but they haven't a clue to what it takes to build an amplifier who's inherent design is to rock hard. The Kramer K15R starts at $74.99 (available at www.musicyo.com) and can accomplish things even the most expensive Dumble, Alessandro, and Diezel amps can only dream of. Here is an explanation of the priceless features of the Kramer K15R:

Technical Specifications: Controls: 1/4" Inputs (Hi and Low)
Overdrive Channel with Drive and Level Controls
Clean Channel with Level Controls
Overdrive/Clean Switch
3-Band EQ (High, Mid, Low)
Reverb Level Control
FX Loop Send/Return (TRS cable NOT included)
Headphone Output
Power Rating: 15 Watts RMS
Speaker: 8" Full-Range
Cabinet: Closed-Back, Black Vinyl Covered with Durable Plastic Corners
Voltage: Works with US 110-120 Volts
Plug: US wall plug-end

Those other amps try to do everything, and that's impossible! They try to do both rock AND country! The Kramer K15R does one thing and does it well: ROCKS HARD! Stop using amps that mean well and start using amps that ROCK HARD!!!

[NervePoet]

Originally posted by Wayrockin1
I heard some sound clips of a Fuchs that could give the Dumble OD Special a run for it's money. Also sorta pricey, though...

Did it FUCH HARD?!

[koiwoi]

Originally posted by NervePoet
Those may look good, but when played in public, they have proven to be inferior amplifiers. Companies like Dumble, Alessandro, and Diezel mean well, but they haven't a clue to what it takes to build an amplifier who's inherent design is to rock hard. The Kramer K15R starts at $74.99 (available at www.musicyo.com) and can accomplish things even the most expensive Dumble, Alessandro, and Diezel amps can only dream of. Here is an explanation of the priceless features of the Kramer K15R:

Technical Specifications: Controls: 1/4" Inputs (Hi and Low)
Overdrive Channel with Drive and Level Controls
Clean Channel with Level Controls
Overdrive/Clean Switch
3-Band EQ (High, Mid, Low)
Reverb Level Control
FX Loop Send/Return (TRS cable NOT included)
Headphone Output
Power Rating: 15 Watts RMS
Speaker: 8" Full-Range
Cabinet: Closed-Back, Black Vinyl Covered with Durable Plastic Corners
Voltage: Works with US 110-120 Volts
Plug: US wall plug-end

Those other amps try to do everything, and that's impossible! They try to do both rock AND country! The Kramer K15R does one thing and does it well: ROCKS HARD! Stop using amps that mean well and start using amps that ROCK HARD!!!

WOW!!!! Where can I get my hands on one of these mean machines?

[Wayrockin1]

Originally posted by NervePoet


Did it FUCH HARD?!

*snicker*

[koiwoi]

Originally posted by Wayrockin1



*snicker*

Mmmmmmmm Snickers.....

[Steveascott]

The Concrete Block of Rockin' Amps. This Baby can go toe to toe with ANY Kramer!!

This puppy is made to [SIZE=3]"ROCK STEADY and ROCK ON!!!!!!!"[/SIZE]

[Jim Soloway]

Originally posted by The Eristic
I'm currently excited about Belov and Komet amps. I'm going to demo a Belov today, and the Komet sometime in the near future.

The Komet was designed by Ken Fischer of Trainwreck fame (the only other modern amp in the price range of Dumbles).

Btw, Two Rock makes the closest thing to a Dumble clone. They start at around $3k, for the "affordable" line and go up very quickly.

Links:

www.kometamps.com
www.belovamps.com
www.two-rock.com

I tried the Belov amps at the NAMM show last year. I absolutely hated them. They were incapable of producing a single usable clean tone at a volume level loud enough to be functional.

[koiwoi]

Originally posted by Jim Soloway


I tried the Belov amps at the NAMM show last year. I absolutely hated them. They were incapable of producing a single usable clean tone at a volume level loud enough to be functional.

True, but I don't think clean tone was one of their design requirements. My Line 6 does great, LOUD, spanky clean, but it can't sound like a Belov being pushed to the brink.

[Tag101]

If anyone wants to play an actual Dumble (two of them), make an appointment at Ultrasound Studios in NY. They have two, but you have to make an appointment beforhand to play them. He had four of them, but just sold two to Mr Santana himself, in the last few months. I wanted a Dumble bad, and played three different ones at ultrasound two years ago. The Two Rock Emerald Pro (Now called Topaz) is an exact replica of the best sounding of these three Dumbles. (I have it on tape to prove it) I A\Bd them for aprox 3-4 hours on 3 seperate occasions. You cant tell them apart. If you want a Dumble, buy a Two Rock Topaz or Two Rock Custom. Both clones of slightly different Dumbles. The Opal is more aggressive, and sounded very similar to Genes third Dumble. All Dumbles sound slightly different, as they were tweaked for the individual player.