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Rob Quail
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Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

A couple of days ago I went to check out a music shop in the new neighbourhood; a place called Cosmo Music, it's one of the bigger stores in the Toronto area.

YAWWWWWNNNN!

Wall of fenders here, in the usual colours; 95% of them were strats. (Just how many fucking strats do we need on earth??) Wall of Pacificas and Ibanez there. A dozen Gibsons with "Please ask for assistance" cards tucked in behind the strings. About 10 of those PRS Santana #8 specials, and 5 "real" PRSs just to they could say they had 'em, hung up on the highest rack. A single, brown, dusty DeArmond on a floor stand, with two broken strings. Bla!! Just like a million guitar shops in a million neighbourhoods the world over.

Amps? 2 BJs, a Blues Deluxe, a DeVille; a Princeton with a fourteen year old plugged in playing Randy Rhodes really BADLY. A Peavey Classic 30, a Delta, and 2 Bandits, plus something called a "Rage" that smelled so strongly of silicon transistors it made me a bit queasy. A marshall somthing or other half-stack. A Line 6 thing. Bla!!! I spotted an Ampeg reissue, raced over to it, only to find that it was a bass amp. :smileysad:

Pedals? A big array of Boss things and Dan'o things in gawdy colours.

Acoustics? You bet...75% Yamaha, 10% Fender, 15% other assorted brands. Nothing exciting, except a wood-body resonophonic Fender that played so poorly it startled me.

I knew the price of everything before looking at the tags, except the MIM fenders, which continue to creep up.

Went to the counter. Asked for Ernie Ball 10-52's --- you guessed it, all out. "You want a set of D'Addarios in those enviro-packs?" "Not if it would bring world peace!!"

Went to the repair shop, asked about putting an fx loop in my BJ; a guy with a nametag that said "Bob" had a hard time understanding the question; he was sure I said "Blues Deville" but I pointed out that that amp already has an fx loop. "Oh yeah..." Bob, who according to the plaque on the wall is a Gold-Certified Fender Electronics Repair Technician, took my phone number and said he'd call back with a price. He hasn't.

There was nothing NOTHING [SIZE=4]NOTHING [/SIZE] even remotely interesting or characterful in the whole store. I felt like jumping up on the counter and yelling "OOGA BOOGA!!" at the top of my lungs, just for a break from the oppressive blandness.

Ugh!!

- Rob
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deeperquest
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Personally I prefer to go to second hand / used music stores. There is always the dream of finding that special something that someone else has tossed, and nothing beats the rush of getting a great negotiated bargain basement price :smileyhappy:

I can't see my forehead ....

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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Guess they need some Kramers.
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by Smokey
Guess they need some Kramers.
.... only in a perfect world :smileytongue:

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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

I really like 'the guitar shop' on lakeshore in mississauga.

Small shop: for electrics they do have a lot of strats. :smileysad: But they have a dozen prs guitars (most of em ridiculously expensive) a few teles and gibbys...then theyve got:

Some nice hollow bodies by fender and gretch
Godin guitars.
Ernie balls
A couple of danelectros
And a few other nice electrics.
And they do bring in various other brands just to mix things up. :smileyhappy:

They have as many acoustics as electrics, and carry mostly the simon and patrick line (S+P, larrivee, seagul A+L) as well as some taylors, martins, and a few other semi-decent cheapie guitars.

Not too much in the way of amps for some reason. :confused:
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Rob Quail
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by babybatter
I really like 'the guitar shop' on lakeshore in mississauga.


My three fave guitar stores in Toronto are:

The Twelfth Fret

Capsule Music

Songbird Music

All three have a great selection of used guitars and amps, plus 12th Fret has lots of really neat new gear. Ben there, BB?
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

'Ben' to songbird, I beleive. They had all the used gear, and all the clones and Heritage guitars, right? Not a shabby shop.

I know 12th fret does all the high end gear. Havent been there.

Dont know a darned thing about capsule.....whats the dirt?
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Rob Quail
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by babybatter
'Ben' to songbird, I beleive. They had all the used gear, and all the clones and Heritage guitars, right? Not a shabby shop.

I know 12th fret does all the high end gear. Havent been there.

Dont know a darned thing about capsule.....whats the dirt?


Capsule are about 5 blocks west of Songbird, on Queen Street. They have every vintage gutar and amp you have ever dreamed about. Their guitar selection is great, and their amp selection is usually KILLER, especially smaller vintage tube combos like Gibson, Garnet, and Ampeg, plus the assortment of blonde and BF fenders. As reasonably priced as these things get. Great staff; nice atmosphere. It is like a Turbo-Songbird. Sadly they don't show more than about 20% of their stock on their web site, unlike 12th Fret and Songbird, who are pretty much up to date on the web.

You owe it to yourself to visit 12fth fret as well. Just a great store.
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

I've got a nice selection of stores in des moines, excellent in fact. I can usually find an example of anything I'm interested in buying. One guy that carries several boutique acoustics, including the brand that I ended up with.

My favorite is a vintage shop run by an old hippie who can only drag his ass out of bed for half a day 4 days a week. But he's got every amp that fender or vox ever made, strats from every year starting in '59, some rare old beatle era Rics, etc. Enough to make you sick. I bought an absolute mint SF champ from him for $225 this year. Dude will talk your ear off, though.
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Old grizzly dudes with vintage gear are cool !
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

I believe I might have been tempted to pick up one of those two Bandits, take a few steps back from the Wall o' Fenders, swing it back and forth 3 or 4 times, and then let it fly smack into the middle of all those Strats.

Just for the hell of it.
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Hey Rob, I was in T.O this weekend and got to check out the Songbird there....holy fuck, talk about a killer store!! It fucken' eats the Ottawa one for breakfeast! Really friendly staff, too (..and I thought all Torontonians were assholes...seems there's a small percentage that aren't...) I did go by The 12th Fret, but it was closed, :smileysad: which is too bad 'cause that's where I wanted to go most, they're like the only store in Canada that stocks high end replacement pick-ups, ah well, another time I guess....
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by ShatteredMindofBob
Hey Rob, I was in T.O this weekend and got to check out the Songbird there....holy fuck, talk about a killer store!! It fucken' eats the Ottawa one for breakfeast! Really friendly staff, too (..and I thought all Torontonians were assholes...seems there's a small percentage that aren't...) I did go by The 12th Fret, but it was closed, :smileysad: which is too bad 'cause that's where I wanted to go most, they're like the only store in Canada that stocks high end replacement pick-ups, ah well, another time I guess....


Why the hell didn't ta look me up, you Ottawa fuchkead!! :smileywink:

You shoulda gone 5 blocks further west to Capsule. It eats Songbird for lunch... :smileyvery-happy:
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by TeleCastrMaster
I believe I might have been tempted to pick up one of those two Bandits, take a few steps back from the Wall o' Fenders, swing it back and forth 3 or 4 times, and then let it fly smack into the middle of all those Strats.

Just for the hell of it.

Har!!

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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by Rob Quail

Har!!

Excellent post.

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:rolleyes:

This post is SOOOO 2002

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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by Rob Quail
A couple of days ago I went to check out a music shop in the new neighbourhood; a place called Cosmo Music, it's one of the bigger stores in the Toronto area.


Mistake #1 - You went to one of the bigger stores.

Mistake #2 - You expected variety at a store that probably depends on high turnover to stay in business.
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by Sjonesmusic


:rolleyes:

This post is SOOOO 2002

:smileytongue:


HAR!

Excellent post!

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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Originally posted by Rob Quail


Why the hell didn't ta look me up, you Ottawa fuchkead!! :smileywink:

You shoulda gone 5 blocks further west to Capsule. It eats Songbird for lunch... :smileyvery-happy:


heh, sorry man, I was visiting a uhh...lady friend...whose a tad on the possesive side....next time I'm down, I'll try to have more time for stuff....and will make sure to check out this Capsule Music place....Heh!! I did, however, glance in the window at Steves and yeah...can sorta see why you're not too fond of it...in that case, the Ottawa location eats it for supper.
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

Doesn't sound that unusual. If you notice, most music stores have their less valuable stock closer to the front and floor. As you work your way back things are more exspensive and are higher up on a wall or behind the counter or behind glass. Fairly logical I think for a retailer if the store is getting robbed, but maybe not if there's a fire.

As to stock makeup, big retailers like Sam Ash and GC tend to have a wide selection of stuff though it's NOT always particularly deep. They may have 25 or 30 Telecasters of varying flavors but very often they won't have the one YOU want.

I actually like smaller/indie stores in this respect because they generally take better care of their stock. They're just as likely as not to have a unique or unusual model instrument when comparted to Ash/GC. Unlike Ash/GC they don't have everyone and their mother in to paw over any and ever guitar they can put their grubby hands on.
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Re: Bland, bland bland!! -- a rant about music stores

And what the fuck is wrong with a wall of Strats?? I wish that we( i say we Rob, becuz I`m 48 and your not far behind) had this kind of selection, and the reasonable pricng and choice of quality when I was learning and coming up the ranks. All I had to choose from in my price range back then, was Kents and Aria`s with action so high, you`d bleed in 12 bars. A young kid reading your review of Cosmo, would think that its a place to run away from. I wish they had Asat Packs when I was 13! oh,, sorry,, I meant Strat packs, same diff....lol
Music stores today, while highly commercial(after all it is a business), offer a lot more to today`s youth to choose from, and I think thats a good thing, no?? I know you carry a big stick around here, but but ya gotta call it for what it`s worth, and don`t give the new- to- guitar guys the wrong impression. Lighten up, pal. :smileyhappy:

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