Cool Jam

[bob-ingram]

Originally posted by PrimeMover
Hey, here's a little solo I did on my Agile

Amber LP2000 Jam Clip

Great clip. Nice playing and tone production.

[PrimeMover]

Originally posted by riffy


That guitar really really sounds great! Is that with the stock P/UPS in it??? IF so, WOW, what a value for the money!!!!!

riffy

Yep, stock pickups, neck position. I used my J-Station for ampage.

[riffy]

Originally posted by PrimeMover


Yep, stock pickups, neck position. I used my J-Station for ampage.

Does yours look as nice as the pics that stratcat posted of his too? Man, if so, I am ordering one posthaste...lol

riffy

[PrimeMover]

Mine is the one just up the page...beautiful guitar. The top looks good in the pictures, but they really don't do that quilt justice.

[riffy]

That is ONE FINE LOOKING GUITAR!!!!!!!!!!
I am another person that does not care whats on the headstock.
I have a PRS a couple of Gibsons and Kramers as well as Ibanez guitars... If it plays well looks good and sounds good... That is all that is important to me.Name recognition is for people who can't play or only want to be noticed... I wanna sound good... And sounding good cheaply is great by me!!!!!!!!!!

riffy

[evhell]

After reading this thread and the reveiws I ordered me a Agile LP 2000 in red flame. It just got here today, and looks great here are some pictures of it .http://mrevil.home.insightbb.com/mrevil.html
The only thing is that the low E sting is buzzing really bad and the action is already pretty high. I don't have the money to go get it setup, so can any of you help with some links to good pages to learn to setup a guitar. Any help would be great, I have searched online but so many pages say one thing and another tells you its wrong?????????? Sorry the pictures are so bad, but its the best I can do for now...

Thank's

[bob-ingram]

Originally posted by evhell
After reading this thread and the reveiws I ordered me a Agile LP 2000 in red flame. It just got here today, and looks great here are some pictures of it .http://mrevil.home.insightbb.com/mrevil.html
The only thing is that the low E sting is buzzing really bad and the action is already pretty high. I don't have the money to go get it setup, so can any of you help with some links to good pages to learn to setup a guitar. Any help would be great, I have searched online but so many pages say one thing and another tells you its wrong?????????? Sorry the pictures are so bad, but its the best I can do for now...

Thank's

Right now, contact Rondo. They stand behind what they sell and if there's something wrong that they can't help you with over the phone or through e-mail, they'll take it back and replace it, even pay the shipping.

[evhell]

I want to keep it, its not messed up it just needs setup I think. I just don't know much about setting one up..

[bob-ingram]

Originally posted by evhell
I want to keep it, its not messed up it just needs setup I think. I just don't know much about setting one up..

Start by changing the strings, sometimes a bad string can buzz. Then move on to this........

Hold down the low E string at the 1st and 15th frets, then look at the space between the string and fret at the 7th fret. It should be about enough to slip a piece of paper folded twice (4 thicknesses of paper). You can also use a spare high E string, .010, to see if this is the correct gap. If there's not enough gap, loosen the truss rod 1/4 turn, if there's too much, most likely that's not your problem but you'll need to tighten the truss rod.

Here's what this looks like.




This picture is showing too much relief.

Once the truss rod is adjusted correctly, check the action. It should be about 5/64" on the E string and 3/64" on the high E string.

If you still can't get to the bottom of this problem, check the alignment of the frets. Using a small straight metal ruler, hold it on the frets like this



If the ruler rocks up and down instead of sitting on the frets even, I'd return the guitar, it's not fretted correctly and will need quite a bit of work.

[evhell]

I tried what you told me and at the 7th fret there is no space. It lays right on the fret.

[bob-ingram]

Originally posted by evhell
I tried what you told me and at the 7th fret there is no space. It lays right on the fret.

There's your problem, there's no room for the string to vibrate.

Make sure the guitar is tuned to proper pitch first. Loosen the truss rod 1/4 turn and check again. if that is not enough, go another 1/4 turn. Wait a half hour or so before turning anymore.

Once you get the relief set correctly, you can now set the action correctly. Use the thumb screws on the bridge to adjust a little at a time, retuning after each adjustment.

Last you'll need to adjust the intonation. Tune each string to the harmonic at the 12th fret, then fret the 12th fret and check the tuning. If it's off, adjust the bridge as needed. If the fretted note is sharp, move the bridge saddle away from fretboard, if the fretted note flat, more it towards the fretboard. Adjust every string.

These are the steps I always go through with any new guitar. Yes, I did my Agile too.

[bob-ingram]

Oh, here's a link that may help you.

http://mysite.verizon.net/jazz.guitar/guitarsetup.htm

[PrimeMover]

Bob, I just wanted to chime in here and say that you do, in fact, kick ass.

[evhell]

Yes you do, and thank's for the help. Im going to work on it tonight. Ex wife just droped off my strings and im going to try to fix the neck. Thank's again for the help, i'll let you know how it goes...

[evhell]

I put on the new strings and gave the truss rod 1/4 turn and let it sit for 2 hours. Then I checked it and it was the same, so I gave it another little turn and let it sit over night and I still can't get an high E string in there. Should I give it another turn? I checked the frets and there even. I may have to set it aside for month till I can get the money to send it out to get setup..
Thank's

[bob-ingram]

Originally posted by evhell
I put on the new strings and gave the truss rod 1/4 turn and let it sit for 2 hours. Then I checked it and it was the same, so I gave it another little turn and let it sit over night and I still can't get an high E string in there. Should I give it another turn? I checked the frets and there even. I may have to set it aside for month till I can get the money to send it out to get setup..
Thank's

Sure, loosen it 1/4 turn at a time. This is to prevent over adjusting. You really only need to wait 15 minutes or so. If this won't get the relief into the neck, you might need to send it back.

[gibson1001]

Hi Bob, thanks for the info on the truss rod and set-up. I changed the strings on my DC to GHS 10-46's and was having the same trouble as Evhell. I ended up having to go three 1/4 turns of relief. I then adjusted the bridge for the action. I got it to about .070 on the low E at the 12th which I think is just a little over 4/64. I then was able to tighten the truss rod 1/4 turn to get .011 at the 1st fret. Now I am working on the intonation. Let you know how it works out.

[bob-ingram]

Originally posted by gibson1001
Hi Bob, thanks for the info on the truss rod and set-up. I changed the strings on my DC to GHS 10-46's and was having the same trouble as Evhell. I ended up having to go three 1/4 turns of relief. I then adjusted the bridge for the action. I got it to about .070 on the low E at the 12th which I think is just a little over 4/64. I then was able to tighten the truss rod 1/4 turn to get .011 at the 1st fret. Now I am working on the intonation. Let you know how it works out.

Great. So the frett buzz is gone now?

.011 is too low for me on the E string. Extra low action does not mean good always. You lose dynamics and feel. I like about 4/64th on the treble side and 6/64th on the bass side, but this is your guitar.

[evhell]

OK, tell me if this sounds ok. I adjusted the truss rod the best I could and reset the action. On the low E string its 5/64" and on the high E its 3/64". The low E still has a very lite buzz, I just can't find it. Must have a high fret somewhere. The pickups are set to " neck is 2/32" and the Bridge is 1/16". Does this sound right? It does sound pretty good when playing, what little I can play...
Thank's for the help...

[gibson1001]

Bob, the .011 is at the first fret not the 12th. Gibson recommends around .010 to .013 at the first and around 4/64 on the low E at the 12th and a little less on the the treble E. Fender's site recommends around the same tolerence. I have my Godin SDxt set a little higher at the 12th and I have some trouble barring major 7th's and 9th's in the higher register.