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I just recieved this Agile this morning from my wife and thought I'd post a pic for those that want to see what one ACTUALLY looks like..
Can't give an accurate review yet but I'll say this.. I can't find a blemish anywhere!! Initially,, I'm shocked at the quality of this instrument!! And I've owned a Raven RP300... More later..
Originally posted by Sonny56
What's the fretwork like? Size, shape and finish? Are they installed correctly? Fret ends?
Does the guitar intonate correctly? Dead spots?
How's the overall weight?
Frets appear to be in the medium range.. fret ends are polished above average IMHO I gave the inlays and frets the ole magnifying glass inspection and can honestly say NICE WORK..
I weighed it on a digital scale.. Exactly 10lbs
The intonation seems a little off on the Low E and A strings.. only slightly.. I've been around guitars and played for 30 some years and this is to be expected on a new instrument.. I've never bought one that I didn't have to setup to MY specs
No deadspots at all.. Jury is still out on the pickups.. Mind you I DO want to be fair and not post a babbling overhyped review like we all read over in the review section
Hey, thanks.
Sounds like these might be a real bargain. I'm not that concerned about the pickups since they can be easily replaced, but I'm always afraid on the low cost mail order axes that the fretwork is poorly installed or finished, or that the guitar is impossible to intonate due to improper construction.
I really like the look of those new flame maple capped Agile LP knockoffs, but don't want a shiny "turd" if you know what I mean.
Good luck and post more opinions when possible.
Sounds like these might be a real bargain. I'm not that concerned about the pickups since they can be easily replaced, but I'm always afraid on the low cost mail order axes that the fretwork is poorly installed or finished, or that the guitar is impossible to intonate due to improper construction.
I really like the look of those new flame maple capped Agile LP knockoffs, but don't want a shiny "turd" if you know what I mean.
Good luck and post more opinions when possible.
Originally posted by Axeslinger
Frets appear to be in the medium range.. fret ends are polished above average IMHO I gave the inlays and frets the ole magnifying glass inspection and can honestly say NICE WORK..
The intonation seems a little off on the Low E and A strings.. only slightly.. I've been around guitars and played for 30 some years and this is to be expected on a new instrument.. I've never bought one that I didn't have to setup to MY specs
No deadspots at all.. Jury is still out on the pickups.. Mind you I DO want to be fair and not post a babbling overhyped review like we all read over in the review section
Everything you say is the case... I still haven't found anything wrong with mine, other than a slight intonation thing...easily fixed.
...and I definitely like the pickups in mine.
Sonny,
I totally understand I've always had the opinion that if a guitar's platform(what I call the fretboard,neck and body) is good then everything else in easily replaced.. I don't subscribe to the "If it's not made in the USA,,it's crap" theory..
I'm comparing this to the RP300 I owned and the MANY LP's I've played lately. I played a quilt top Epi LP last weekend that was MUCH better than the high dollar Les Pauls I had played only minutes earlier..
The Raven RP300 I had was a decent enough LP knockoff and I installed an Evolution and SD59 in it but, I never really fell in love with that guitar. Y'know what I mean?
This one is growing on me fast
I just installed a new Warmoth neck on one of my Strats this last weekend with 6105 fret wire on it. These, I would catagorize as between the 6105 and 6130 wire..
Prime,
These pups are definately serviceable and the neck pickup sounds very good but I'm not sure the bridge pickup has the power I want.. They are matched well I must say.
The one thing I've found that bugs me(and can be easily fixed) is,, when my pickup selector is in the middle position only the neck pickup is engaged.. Is yours wired this way as well?
I wasn't expecting to find Grover tuners on this It stays in tune well
I totally understand
I've always had the opinion that if a guitar's platform(what I call the fretboard,neck and body) is good then everything else in easily replaced.. I don't subscribe to the "If it's not made in the USA,,it's crap" theory..I'm comparing this to the RP300 I owned and the MANY LP's I've played lately. I played a quilt top Epi LP last weekend that was MUCH better than the high dollar Les Pauls I had played only minutes earlier..
The Raven RP300 I had was a decent enough LP knockoff and I installed an Evolution and SD59 in it but, I never really fell in love with that guitar. Y'know what I mean?
This one is growing on me fast
I just installed a new Warmoth neck on one of my Strats this last weekend with 6105 fret wire on it. These, I would catagorize as between the 6105 and 6130 wire..
Prime,
These pups are definately serviceable and the neck pickup sounds very good but I'm not sure the bridge pickup has the power I want.. They are matched well I must say.
The one thing I've found that bugs me(and can be easily fixed) is,, when my pickup selector is in the middle position only the neck pickup is engaged.. Is yours wired this way as well?
I wasn't expecting to find Grover tuners on this
It stays in tune well
Originally posted by Axeslinger
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I just recieved this Agile this morning from my wife and thought I'd post a pic for those that want to see what one ACTUALLY looks like..
Can't give an accurate review yet but I'll say this.. I can't find a blemish anywhere!! Initially,, I'm shocked at the quality of this instrument!! And I've owned a Raven RP300... More later..
she's really pretty and if the fret work, fit and finish is what you say it it, I'm looking into one of these myself. I have an advantage over most though, Rondo in only about a 35 minute drive from my house.
I bought my first electric guitar there in 1963, a Danelectro for $35. Somehow this guy always has an eye for good quality inexpensive guitars and amps.
Originally posted by Axeslinger
Prime,
These pups are definately serviceable and the neck pickup sounds very good but I'm not sure the bridge pickup has the power I want.. They are matched well I must say.
The one thing I've found that bugs me(and can be easily fixed) is,, when my pickup selector is in the middle position only the neck pickup is engaged.. Is yours wired this way as well?
I wasn't expecting to find Grover tuners on this
Sounds to me like you've found a little glitch there...my pickup switching is indeed, the same way. Doensn't bother me too much though...everything else about this guitar I am digging heavily.
Gotta like that Grover tuner thing. As far as the pickups go, they are well matched. Perhaps I'm just not that particular about pickup sound (within reason)...but I've been able to get all the tones I've wanted to get from them...I'm not really looking for any sound in particular, just nice middle of the road pickups that will allow me to cover a wide variety of sounds/styles...and these seem to do the trick.
Nice to see another good one out there making someone happy!
As to the switch thang, the ones ive gotten in two humbucker setup all had the same config in wiring.
Neck position was just the neck pu.
Middle position was both pu's
Bridge [position was just bridge pu.
You may wanna rewire it correctly since it will give more tone options. Its a lil bit of a pain to have to do that but if you got a real wwiner as far as everything else goes its cheaper and easier to keep it and rewire the switch.
See ya'll i twernt liein to ya about these things! They are nice for the bucks! I gave mine away to people around my complex, or sold them to same. A guy and a gal round there had theirs ripped (different times and places). They couldnt afford new ones so i helped them out this year. And in one case i sold my CSB to a bud who wasnt poor and wanted a good player. But i aint letting go of my EG260 Essex. I admit the Essex are not anywhere near the Agiles overall but this one just honks to me when i play it.
As to the switch thang, the ones ive gotten in two humbucker setup all had the same config in wiring.
Neck position was just the neck pu.
Middle position was both pu's
Bridge [position was just bridge pu.
You may wanna rewire it correctly since it will give more tone options. Its a lil bit of a pain to have to do that but if you got a real wwiner as far as everything else goes its cheaper and easier to keep it and rewire the switch.
See ya'll i twernt liein to ya about these things! They are nice for the bucks! I gave mine away to people around my complex, or sold them to same. A guy and a gal round there had theirs ripped (different times and places). They couldnt afford new ones so i helped them out this year. And in one case i sold my CSB to a bud who wasnt poor and wanted a good player. But i aint letting go of my EG260 Essex. I admit the Essex are not anywhere near the Agiles overall but this one just honks to me when i play it.
Originally posted by kherman
Very nice!
How does the quilt look up close. Is it as nice as on the Rondo website?
Kent
I reduced the pic i posted quite a bit but intentionally left it somewhat large because I know alot of people around here are considering one of these Agiles, so I wanted to post a large photo to help those draw their own conclusions..
First glance at this instrument suggests quality and I've found nothing to contradict that. The switch miswire is no big deal to me and intonation adjustments were expected.. I'm starting to consider a Black Beauty copy from them
Oh,,and BTW,, I've always been a Strat/Superstrat guy
I'm still reaching fer the wiggle stick on this bad boy
Originally posted by aliensporebomb
Really nice looking guitar for the money. I'd like to try one.
It'd be nice to have a "beater" guitar that I wouldn't be
afraid to gig with and if it got ripped off or damaged I'd just
shrug. But that looks like a really nice example of what an
inexpensive guitar should be. Yow!
Nah, the "beater" would be this guy....
I'm thinking of this one only because it looks so cool. Les Paul TV model copy. I might add a seond P-90 Pu too.
Looks great!
The frets questions been answered thanks guys.
Now, on their website it says not a photo but real maple top. What does that mean, that is, is it 3/4" Thick Top, or a laminated top (still not a photo you know, I am maybe a little too paranoid here :eek:)?
The most sure way is by looking into the pickup cavity (BTW I am not saying you should, but if somebody has done that already I'd appreciate the info).
The frets questions been answered thanks guys.
Now, on their website it says not a photo but real maple top. What does that mean, that is, is it 3/4" Thick Top, or a laminated top (still not a photo you know, I am maybe a little too paranoid here :eek:
)?The most sure way is by looking into the pickup cavity (BTW I am not saying you should, but if somebody has done that already I'd appreciate the info).
Originally posted by kuntikin
Looks great!
The frets questions been answered thanks guys.
Now, on their website it says not a photo but real maple top. What does that mean, that is, is it 3/4" Thick Top, or a laminated top (still not a photo you know, I am maybe a little too paranoid here :eek:
The most sure way is by looking into the pickup cavity (BTW I am not saying you should, but if somebody has done that already I'd appreciate the info).
What that means is that the top of the guitar has had two thin bookmatched pieces of maple laminated to the top. True, they may be close to paper thin, but they are real quilted maple...so each top is different...and because it's not a photo, it does have some depth to it...it's an effective look. Does it have as much depth as a fully finished 3/4 " maple top?...of course not, but you're just not going to find that sort of maple cap on a $250 guitar...nor will you find it on a $500 guitar...or likely even higher than that.
No offense, but I think you may be a bit paranoid... simply put, this is the best $250 guitar I have ever seen...it's beautiful and it plays great. You could lie and tell someone who's familiar with guitars, but not the Agile name, that it's a custom brand and that you paid between $500 and $1000...I doubt they'd bat an eye.
Originally posted by bob-ingram
Nah, the "beater" would be this guy....
I'm thinking of this one only because it looks so cool. Les Paul TV model copy. I might add a seond P-90 Pu too.
I had a '73 Univox Limited Edition, which is just like that guitar, only with the two P-90 configuration...it ripped. I sold it because someone offered me entirely too much money for it.
If Kurt offered a two pickup model, I'd probably buy one...just so I could have one again.
Originally posted by PrimeMover
What that means is that the top of the guitar has had two thin bookmatched pieces of maple laminated to the top. True, they may be close to paper thin, but they are real quilted maple...so each top is different...and because it's not a photo, it does have some depth to it...it's an effective look. Does it have as much depth as a fully finished 3/4 " maple top?...of course not, but you're just not going to find that sort of maple cap on a $250 guitar...nor will you find it on a $500 guitar...or likely even higher than that.
No offense, but I think you may be a bit paranoid... simply put, this is the best $250 guitar I have ever seen...it's beautiful and it plays great. You could lie and tell someone who's familiar with guitars, but not the Agile name, that it's a custom brand and that you paid between $500 and $1000...I doubt they'd bat an eye.
Now I know. I did not own a laminated top so far, thus was wondering whether or not those were real maple caps. (If it were, then it would be unbelievable!)
That's all.
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