01-27-2013 12:32 PM
01-29-2013 07:09 AM
Well this is an ironic question...usually people are looking for a pedal that sounds like a tube amp.
The SansAmp bass DI is supposedly based on/voiced like an Ampeg SVT. It is supposed to simulate the tone of the SVT amp, cab, and mic. Having said that, a fully-cranked SVT would be punishingly loud, and would shorten the life of the expensive power tubes too. If you're happy with the distortion tone of the SansAmp, just use that. Why a tube amp?
Tech21, the company that makes the SansAmp, also makes the RPI, basically a rackmount version of the sansamp, that could easily be paired with PA-type power amplifier to make a bass rig, or Tech21 also sells a powered, 2-channel head version that's based on the SansAmp preamp.
Another alternative to look into is buying a 70's vintage Silverface Fender Bassman head, there are 50 and 100 watt versions, and they are not too hard to find nor too expensive for a vintage amp, maybe about $600 or so, but I don't know how the distorted sound is on those.
01-29-2013 08:26 AM - edited 01-30-2013 08:12 AM
The Bugera 1960 Infinium I sometimes play bass through can get pretty dammed fuzzy if you play through the series connected input channels (AKA Randy Rhodes mod) which is a feature of this amp. At only 100w or so and because it's designed to run distorted there's no concern with running it that way. It also has a master on the back but like all master equipped amps output tube distortion sounds different than preamp distortion. I paid only $340 shipped for mine as "open box" .
01-29-2013 09:54 AM
Using a tube amp in a high volume setting and having a consistent distorted tone like a sansamp will be difficult. It's called headroom. This is why most bassist prefer solid-state or hybrid amps. Stick with what you have, if you like the tone.
01-29-2013 10:24 PM
01-30-2013 04:25 PM
01-30-2013 04:46 PM
01-31-2013 10:54 AM - edited 01-31-2013 10:54 AM
I think you're missing the point. To get that kind of sound, whether on guitar, bass, organ, whatever, you need to really crank up the gain. Do that with a regular amp, and the result is a really high volume. You also lose any of the nuance you might have been getting from the tubes. Square waves are square waves. Doesn't matter much how they're generated. So, if you want that kind of sound and have to have some control over the level coming out of the speakers, you're going to have to do it with a pedal or some other sort of device ahead of the amp's preamp.
I also don't understand what you're hoping for. What I'm getting is, "I really love this particular sound. How can I get the same thing with a much more expensive piece of gear?"
01-31-2013 09:59 PM
Try to find an old Kustom 200 and matching 2-15 cab. Yes, it's solid state, but the tone you're talking about can be had with one of these. It's a GREAT vintage ballsy tone. The original speakers, I think CTS, are the perfect match for the cool breakup that amp brings.
Of course the issue, as alluded to above, is that that breakup is dependent on your volume. And every gig requires different volume. Still... I love using a pedal to push it at lower volumes, and cranked? Well, it's awesome. It's fat, in your face, and makes a statement!
The old Ampeg 100 watt head is also a contender. There's something about having a lower watt rig that can really bring the vibe, girth and mojo. I get it though that it's not for every one.
01-31-2013 10:01 PM
BTW, a Fulltone OCD can be an awesome grit and girth pedal for bass.
02-01-2013 12:47 PM
02-01-2013 02:39 PM
There are a few two channel bass heads, but it is pretty uncommon. A buddy of mine has an 800W Aguilar head with a drive channel, but it doesn't get super distorted.
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