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Originally Posted by wheresgrant3
I'm staying out of the general discussion in this thread for the following reasons...
....whatever I would contribute at this point would be moot and lost in a morass of off topic banter!
... the perception from some is that by doing what we've done over the years to help grow the band is pointless, unsustainable, unnecessary or not really factors in a bands success or failure.
... I'll be called out as 'bragging' instead of sharing experiences.
And after reading 15 pages of this thread I see any of the above as possible.
Happy New Year
....whatever I would contribute at this point would be moot and lost in a morass of off topic banter!
... the perception from some is that by doing what we've done over the years to help grow the band is pointless, unsustainable, unnecessary or not really factors in a bands success or failure.
... I'll be called out as 'bragging' instead of sharing experiences.
And after reading 15 pages of this thread I see any of the above as possible.
Happy New Year
It seems that every participant believes that they are going to be the first person that Ramsey says "your food is great! you're a great manager! The only problem is that your customers are obviously very stupid and don't appreciate your talents. All you need is our free decor makeover and the free advertising you'll get from being on our show, and you'll be good to go!"
It's often the same thing here. People don't really want to hear that they might be doing anything wrong or that there is any significant difference between bands who are more successful and those that are not. That all they really need to do is switch out a couple of classic rock tunes they really like playing for a couple of others they like just as much and they'll be good to go. And that all their problems stem from stupid patrons who don't appreciate REAL music and idiotic clubowners.
Originally Posted by wades_keys
/thread
I mean clearly, the ONLY WAY, and the obvious solution for ALL of us to improve the value of our own bands is to individually petition the style-hopping, bass-smashing, music-breathing, daily-playing, bullshit-calling, channel-exaggerating brah-tastic Wade to join...
All else is obviously lesser.
Originally Posted by kmart
/thread
I mean clearly, the ONLY WAY, and the obvious solution for ALL of us to improve the value of our own bands is to individually petition the style-hopping, bass-smashing, music-breathing, daily-playing, bullshit-calling, channel-exaggerating brah-tastic Wade to join...
All else is obviously lesser.
I mean clearly, the ONLY WAY, and the obvious solution for ALL of us to improve the value of our own bands is to individually petition the style-hopping, bass-smashing, music-breathing, daily-playing, bullshit-calling, channel-exaggerating brah-tastic Wade to join...
All else is obviously lesser.
Originally Posted by modulusman
Wade you are so full of it your last name must be Brown. First of all you say the board is a 48 and now it has 36 channels. I don't believe carvin ever made those size boards ever. As a matter of fact I'm not sure if anyone has ever made a 36 channel mixer. Here is an idea, why don't you actually count the channels or post a picture of it and I will count them for you. 
First of all you say the board is a 48 and now it has 36 channels. I don't believe carvin ever made those size boards ever. As a matter of fact I'm not sure if anyone has ever made a 36 channel mixer. Here is an idea, why don't you actually count the channels or post a picture of it and I will count them for you. 
/soapbox
C'mon guys...leave Wade alone. We need more people here, not less. After all these comments, he is probably plotting to hunt each of you down and impale you with his bass. His heart is in the right place, even though the words don't match. No need to kick him all at the same time. Does he deserve it? Yea, probably. I'm here to learn and grow, not bitch and moan. We have already lost lots of great members (Bluestrat, LeftyJay, etc...) due to the same old BS; maybe we can keep the great members we have?
And Wade - c'mon man - nobody is challenging your manhood. Let it go.
/off soapbox
AND back to the OP:
Originally Posted by roamingbard13
I'm certainly not the best judge of the "business stuff" by far, and the suggestions so far are great! My 2 cents:
I would start with signage - you can't put a price on the value of having your name on a 4' by 6' banner behind you, and it's cheap; probably less than a C-note.
Subs and lights would be next, as they begin to make it a "show." I would start with one REALLY good powered sub and build from there.
Spend $100 on a great banner and $900 on a great sub. Next upgrade cycle get some lights and a controller.
Look at it this way. Rent lights and PA eight or ten times for 2 grand OR buy your own to use for sixty gigs. Hell you could even rent your subs and lights to others and make them subsidize your purchase (that is what I have done) charging whatever you like.
C'mon guys...leave Wade alone. We need more people here, not less. After all these comments, he is probably plotting to hunt each of you down and impale you with his bass. His heart is in the right place, even though the words don't match. No need to kick him all at the same time. Does he deserve it? Yea, probably. I'm here to learn and grow, not bitch and moan. We have already lost lots of great members (Bluestrat, LeftyJay, etc...) due to the same old BS; maybe we can keep the great members we have?
And Wade - c'mon man - nobody is challenging your manhood. Let it go.
/off soapbox
AND back to the OP:
Originally Posted by roamingbard13
I would start with signage - you can't put a price on the value of having your name on a 4' by 6' banner behind you, and it's cheap; probably less than a C-note.
Subs and lights would be next, as they begin to make it a "show." I would start with one REALLY good powered sub and build from there.
Spend $100 on a great banner and $900 on a great sub. Next upgrade cycle get some lights and a controller.
Look at it this way. Rent lights and PA eight or ten times for 2 grand OR buy your own to use for sixty gigs. Hell you could even rent your subs and lights to others and make them subsidize your purchase (that is what I have done) charging whatever you like.
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