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jimiv
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

I would go with the subs first. Ditto on the vocals. Yes you can start with one, the get the other. Don't go cheapo on the subs though. Lighting is also a must, but I would go with the subs first.
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by jimiv View Post
I would go with the subs first. Ditto on the vocals. Yes you can start with one, the get the other. Don't go cheapo on the subs though. Lighting is also a must, but I would go with the subs first.
you can certainly go cheap. Just don't go crappy!
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by jimiv View Post
I would go with the subs first. Ditto on the vocals. Yes you can start with one, the get the other. Don't go cheapo on the subs though. Lighting is also a must, but I would go with the subs first.
you can certainly go cheap. Just don't go crappy!
tlbonehead@yahoo.com
www.myspace.com/tbone_tommy
-For Sale:
-set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
-(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
- Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
- Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
- Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead View Post
you can certainly go cheap. Just don't go crappy!
We have done very well going cheap without going crappy. Got two powered Yorkville subs for $1200 and two powered EV tops for $800 - easily $4k of PA for $2k. Throw in a driverack for $250 and a mixwiz for $800 and we have a great sounding PA. A lot of it is being in the right place at the right time and constantly looking for deals, but it can be done.

I'd like to add that a good light show can make you look like a different band - and a lot of people listen with their eyes. That is our next step.
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead View Post
you can certainly go cheap. Just don't go crappy!
We have done very well going cheap without going crappy. Got two powered Yorkville subs for $1200 and two powered EV tops for $800 - easily $4k of PA for $2k. Throw in a driverack for $250 and a mixwiz for $800 and we have a great sounding PA. A lot of it is being in the right place at the right time and constantly looking for deals, but it can be done.

I'd like to add that a good light show can make you look like a different band - and a lot of people listen with their eyes. That is our next step.
My cover band

HARD WORK BEATS TALENT WHEN TALENT DOESN'T WORK HARD
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead View Post
you can certainly go cheap. Just don't go crappy!
Cheapo = crappy. Cheap = discount/deal.

Damn, this internet thang is addicting. I really gots to get out of here.....yous guys is makin me late. Hahahaha
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead View Post
you can certainly go cheap. Just don't go crappy!
Cheapo = crappy. Cheap = discount/deal.

Damn, this internet thang is addicting. I really gots to get out of here.....yous guys is makin me late. Hahahaha
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead View Post
true in many cases, but much of the listed genre had little for extravagant harmonies. But proper singing for the genre is definitely up there.
Harmony is the thing that puts bands to the next level. anyone can go buy subs , but they dont have near the impact on pay as multiple part vocals.
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by tlbonehead View Post
true in many cases, but much of the listed genre had little for extravagant harmonies. But proper singing for the genre is definitely up there.
Harmony is the thing that puts bands to the next level. anyone can go buy subs , but they dont have near the impact on pay as multiple part vocals.
"you mess with him and you mess with the whole trailer park"
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^^
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Neither of us is gay or anything, it just happened.
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^^
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

And also assumes that when I said the music is in a good place now that we don't already have that...we've had 2 and 3 part harmonies when appropriate
since our first gig 2 years ago, although they are a lot tighter now than they were then.
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

And also assumes that when I said the music is in a good place now that we don't already have that...we've had 2 and 3 part harmonies when appropriate
since our first gig 2 years ago, although they are a lot tighter now than they were then.
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Quote Originally Posted by TIMKEYS View Post
the best way to increase the value of a band is by really working on multiple part harmony vocals. It will do more for the bottom line than any gear purchase.
THIS
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Quote Originally Posted by TIMKEYS View Post
the best way to increase the value of a band is by really working on multiple part harmony vocals. It will do more for the bottom line than any gear purchase.
THIS
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Quote Originally Posted by roamingbard13 View Post
And also assumes that when I said the music is in a good place now that we don't already have that...we've had 2 and 3 part harmonies when appropriate
since our first gig 2 years ago, although they are a lot tighter now than they were then.
What did tighening up your harmony do for your band? I would guess it really upped what you were getting. The big paycheck tend to come from playing events like daves band does. Upping the vocal game is what got them there according to his reports. When they went to the two girls up front did the trick.
"you mess with him and you mess with the whole trailer park"
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by roamingbard13 View Post
And also assumes that when I said the music is in a good place now that we don't already have that...we've had 2 and 3 part harmonies when appropriate
since our first gig 2 years ago, although they are a lot tighter now than they were then.
What did tighening up your harmony do for your band? I would guess it really upped what you were getting. The big paycheck tend to come from playing events like daves band does. Upping the vocal game is what got them there according to his reports. When they went to the two girls up front did the trick.
"you mess with him and you mess with the whole trailer park"
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by TIMKEYS View Post
What did tighening up your harmony do for your band? I would guess it really upped what you were getting. The big paycheck tend to come from playing events like daves band does. Upping the vocal game is what got them there according to his reports. When they went to the two girls up front did the trick.
The problem with harmony is that there isnt any room for error. they have to be spot on to be effective. In fact weak harmony is worse than no harmony in many cases.
"you mess with him and you mess with the whole trailer park"
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by TIMKEYS View Post
What did tighening up your harmony do for your band? I would guess it really upped what you were getting. The big paycheck tend to come from playing events like daves band does. Upping the vocal game is what got them there according to his reports. When they went to the two girls up front did the trick.
The problem with harmony is that there isnt any room for error. they have to be spot on to be effective. In fact weak harmony is worse than no harmony in many cases.
"you mess with him and you mess with the whole trailer park"
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Re: What are some ways to improve the "value" of your band?

Quote Originally Posted by TIMKEYS View Post
Harmony is the thing that puts bands to the next level. anyone can go buy subs , but they dont have near the impact on pay as multiple part vocals.
but if you are playing stuff like ENTER SANDMAN with no lowend you will get sent back to your garage with no gigs regardless of how well you can sing elaborate harmonies.
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-set of GFS Dream 90s- gold and black pearl- $40 shipped in the cont. US
-(2) Celestion G12M-70 16 ohm guitar speakers in good condition $40 ea. + shipping.
- Vox VT15 Valvetronix very clean - $85 + shipping
- Hughes Kettner Edition Tube 20 (the early Voxy sounding one) Sounds & looks good. $250 + shipping. SOLD
- Crate Palomino V8 - 10" Celestion - Very clean - on Ebay (sold)
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