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Originally Posted by jplanet
On your website you talk proudly of your music and performances being from the 70s. Well, I'm not sure that 40-year old music has ever had much marketability. I like your music because I'm over 50, but for that same reason I'm probably not going to be buying it or going out to see your band live any time soon. Got other things to do with my time and money.
Nothing at all wrong with what you're playing and how you're playing it. But your expectations for the market need to be realistic and it isn't all the fault of the public or the state of the industry today. And finding guys who want to do things just for the music gets harder as people get older as well. Something else that I don't think has really changed much either.
But good job on what you've done and good luck! The keyboard player sounds really good.
Originally Posted by jplanet
On your website you talk proudly of your music and performances being from the 70s. Well, I'm not sure that 40-year old music has ever had much marketability. I like your music because I'm over 50, but for that same reason I'm probably not going to be buying it or going out to see your band live any time soon. Got other things to do with my time and money.
Nothing at all wrong with what you're playing and how you're playing it. But your expectations for the market need to be realistic and it isn't all the fault of the public or the state of the industry today. And finding guys who want to do things just for the music gets harder as people get older as well. Something else that I don't think has really changed much either.
But good job on what you've done and good luck! The keyboard player sounds really good.
Originally Posted by Piano Whore
My comment was directed at his line about how the business has changed. I don't think it has. Prog rock was successful in the 70s because it was hip, fresh and appealed almost exclusively to people under 30. Nowadays? Not so much. Now it's a 40-year old genre with very little appeal to younger people. So it's marketability is severely limited for those reasons. In both live and recorded formats. It has nothing much to do with the dedication of the musicians to the art or the state of the music business, really.
That's all I was commenting on. But his music and his band are very, very good, IMO. And if he's doing it for the love of the music without any illusions about the difficulties of selling it, then more power to him. Doing it for the love of it is what it's all about.
Originally Posted by Piano Whore
My comment was directed at his line about how the business has changed. I don't think it has. Prog rock was successful in the 70s because it was hip, fresh and appealed almost exclusively to people under 30. Nowadays? Not so much. Now it's a 40-year old genre with very little appeal to younger people. So it's marketability is severely limited for those reasons. In both live and recorded formats. It has nothing much to do with the dedication of the musicians to the art or the state of the music business, really.
That's all I was commenting on. But his music and his band are very, very good, IMO. And if he's doing it for the love of the music without any illusions about the difficulties of selling it, then more power to him. Doing it for the love of it is what it's all about.
Hey, thinkin' about getting back into keys again - only two songs I ever played live were "Space Truckin'" and "Head Games" and only one handed on a mini-keys Casio 
. The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential 
) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what 
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. The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential ) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what ?
Hey, thinkin' about getting back into keys again - only two songs I ever played live were "Space Truckin'" and "Head Games" and only one handed on a mini-keys Casio . The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential ) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what ?
. The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential ) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what ?
Originally Posted by RoadRanger
Hey, thinkin' about getting back into keys again - only two songs I ever played live were "Space Truckin'" and "Head Games" and only one handed on a mini-keys Casio . The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential ) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what ?
. The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential ) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what ? Originally Posted by RoadRanger
Hey, thinkin' about getting back into keys again - only two songs I ever played live were "Space Truckin'" and "Head Games" and only one handed on a mini-keys Casio . The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential ) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what ?
. The intro riff on "Head Games" is about the closest to playing a lead I'll be able to pull off for a year or two I suspect. What do all you all think of the chances of finding a band crappy enough to want a crappy (but with potential ) rhythm keys player? Would I really suck if I transpose everything to the white keys like I hear some guys are doin' these days? I might be able to play more than rhythm then . BTW I found an organ program for the iPad that not only lets you transpose but you can tell it wheither you are playing a major, minor, blues, or penatonic scale and it will map the "wrong" keys to the closest "right" note - is that sick or what ? Originally Posted by guido61
It's just hard for me to imagine any rock keyboardist not having some allegiance to prog -- prog is what put keyboards on the rock stage. Where would rock keyboards be without the likes of Keith Emerson, Rock Wakeman, Tony Banks? And prog's influence can be heard all over modern pop - wherever you hear unusual time signatures, classical instrumentation, or the classic Moog sound, prog blazed that trail. It continues to, but people put different labels on it.
Prog is also just another marketing niche. We play our music to people who have no idea what prog is, and they just associate it with what they know. They might hear the influence of The Who, Queen, Styx, early Heart, even Trans Siberian...
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