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Kramerguy
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

Hey Mike, I've been trying to unload a marshall half-stack and acoustic guitar on CL for a while. I haven't listed it on fleabay simply because I'm not willing to get into the shipping and receiving nightmare that comes with music gear, especially a heavy amp.. best to keep it local, although, there is a huge scam going on in my area, that I suspect is a local pawn shop- for many *desirable* listings, like brand name stuff - let's say you post a sale for a metallic blue / white 1995 american strat, great condition, and a fair price at $1000 (**dunno if that's accurate, so gear snobs please don't correct me :smileytongue: Just using that price as an example!) The next day another seller just HAPPENS to have a 1994 american strat green white or whatever.. but CLOSE to the same descript as yours.. for $600 !! pic too! How resourceful! Last time I listed my ovation, THREE ads for almost the identical guitar popped up, for HALF the price I was asking. Over the last six months, as I've posted my marshall half-stack, either a higher wattage ro better model marshall has popped up the same or next day, and at a slightly lower price. In every case, they ensure you don't get ANY real offers on your gear, so where do you go to sell your gear when you get desperate? Occam's razor. (edit) just realized my posting in my sig expired again argh.. I'm never gonna sell this stuff.
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Kramerguy
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

Yep, especially when brand new hardware 8-tracks, even with CD burning capability and 40GB HD's nowadays can be had for an average of $400 - $600, $800 can probably get you a high-end 16 track recorder.


My digital 8-track has a 40GB HDD, masters in WAV and exports the master(s) or track(s) in WAV via USB. Bought it new for $299 back in 2007.

Technology just got cheap, fast. It's a shame, but at the same time, worked for me, I can do quick and easy scratch tracks by only pushing a button, export, convert to mp3 via my laptop and send to rest of band, whole process takes less than 10 minutes.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?



Last time I listed my ovation, THREE ads for almost the identical guitar popped up, for HALF the price I was asking.



Honestly, I think a lot of times people have stuff lying about, and forget about selling it. Your ad reminds them, and they realize they can take a bigger hit on price, so why not under cut you? Happens all the time on the DC CL.

I can't sell gear to save my life around here these days, and the regional unemployment rate is ~6.5%. For someplace more private business dependent, or being rocked by the housing dive, it's gotta be even worse. I AM doing a lot of horse trading though. Some times I come out ahead, sometimes I take a bath, but I usually at least getting rid of something I have tried but am dissatisfied with for some thing new I want to try (and quickly get dissatisfied with all over again :smileyhappy:)
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

i sold a ton of stuff in second half of 2009, all via Craigslist. The keys: 1) You have to be persistent. Some stuff sells right away, some sits for months. It's a matter of waiting for someone with the need for what you're selling and the money in his pocket to find your ad. I re-listed unsold items every six or seven days. I rewrite the ads periodically to keep readers from dismissing repeated ads out of familiarity. 2) Some will argue with this, but it has worked for me: list your phone number instead of allowing sellers to reach you via email. This seems to weed out the tire kickers and the flakes. On the phone you can find out in two minutes whether you can expect the deal to close. Via email, you're never sure... 3) Price reasonably. For current-production gear I always ask about 70% of current street price. For gear that's being closed out by the manufacturer, same thing. That can sting at blow-out prices, but no one's going to buy used for nearly the same cost as new. If I'm not in hurry I'll wait until several months after the blow-out sale clears unsold inventory, then price at 70% of the last street price before the blow-out sale. For older gear I use EBay as a guide: I look at recent sales, throw away the outliers (unusually high and low sale prices) and set my price somewhere in the middle of what's left. 3) Always set a firm price. Every one of my Craigslist ads says "prices are firm". Buyers - especially the ones willing to make a phone call - won't try to float a lowball offer if you establish that your prices are firm. Depending upon my situation I might be willing to entertain a slightly lower offer, but never more than five or ten percent less than my advertised price. 4) Establish that you're interested in closing the deal. I can understand that folks want to try before they buy, and I certainly accommodate that desire. I always make it clear that my gear is *for sale*, not for random CL flakes to "try out" in my living room. When someone calls for the first time I tell them, "Yes the ___ is still available. When would you like to come by and pick it up? I'm available ___ and ___." Callers who are "just curious" usually admit their intent when presented with having to choose a date and time to complete a purchase. If the gear in question is unusual, I'll often accommodate reasonable requests to satisfy a buyer's curiosity; more often than not a sale follows. I generally encourage tire kickers to "try out" readily-available gear somewhere else.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

My digital 8-track has a 40GB HDD, masters in WAV and exports the master(s) or track(s) in WAV via USB. Bought it new for $299 back in 2007.

Technology just got cheap, fast. It's a shame, but at the same time, worked for me, I can do quick and easy scratch tracks by only pushing a button, export, convert to mp3 via my laptop and send to rest of band, whole process takes less than 10 minutes.


It's funny, I still have my Fostex DMT-8vL 8-track that I bought for $1,100 in '98 and still use it for monitoring input levels and recording audio from Reason, as well as some scratch tracks. Of course, unfortunately no USB, so there's the tedious task of unplugging and reconnecting patch cables.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

It's funny, I still have my Fostex DMT-8vL 8-track that I bought for $1,100 in '98 and still use it for monitoring input levels and recording audio from Reason, as well as some scratch tracks. Of course, unfortunately no USB, so there's the tedious task of unplugging and reconnecting patch cables.


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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

Yeah
stuff's not moving well
Most of my CL stuff is priced at least 20% lower than what typical used stuff is and they still wanna ask for less...most buyers have gotten some real bargains from me in the last 2 months. 70% of my stuff has not moved.

The stuff is my sig is not representative (I don't care if that stuff moves or not so it's priced accordingly).

I have even MORE trouble with super specific custom pieces but that's to be expected.

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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

I'm having trouble TRADING gear. I have a crash that is no longer made, and is WAAAY too dark for me, that I want to trade for an AAX or HHX hi hat or ride.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

ebay has been good to me, but the fees have gotten outrageous. Craigslist is pretty much a disaster in the detroit area for selling, but I have bought a few things for fire sale prices.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

Yeah, it's definitely the time to stockpile on cheap stuff that folks like you guys are having trouble moving. :lol: I've gotten some really cheap stuff lately. The bonus is, if you hang onto it long enough, you might be able to make a buck or two when you do sell, otherwise just flip it at no loss. I sold a few things on ebay lately and the prices I got were good enough that, even with fees, far exceeded what I would have been offered by the lowballing scum on cl.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

Yeah, it's definitely the time to stockpile on cheap stuff that folks like you guys are having trouble moving. :lol:
Looks like now may be the time to be picking up amp heads/cabs cheap!
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

Thats a fact.



Looks like now may be the time to be picking up amp heads/cabs cheap!
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

I just joined here and noticed this thread.

I too have equipment, amps, cabs mainly, that are pretty much brand new.
I'd like to try CL but I live in a small condo apartment and can't have people trying out 100w heads/cabs, plus I'm real paranoid about having strangers come over.
What I'd like to do is deliver the stuff myself to a buyer that knows the product and thats the specific item they're looking for to buy.
Because, I don't want to run into a situation where I'm hauling this stuff around to peoples homes just to 'browse'.

For example, I have a amp head that I guarantee is mint and like new. So I need to find that person that is already sold on that particular amp and wants to buy.

Think this can be accomplished?


No one in their right mind would buy gear without trying it first. I don't buy shoes without trying them on.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?



Think this can be accomplished?


Honestly, this is ow most of my CL deals go- I have something someone wants (played before, used ot own, read about on a forum). They audition it at my place just to verify functionality. They give me money, and go. I don't get "tire kickers" or people who want to just use my gear for a demo.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

That'd be great except I don't want people over and I can't have people putting loud amps, or any other for that matter, through their paces.



well then, you are fooked :smileyhappy:
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

No one in their right mind would buy gear without trying it first. I don't buy shoes without trying them on.


I dunno... my main bass for the past few years, I bought used off Ebay. But then, I knew what I wanted, just had to find it. Come to think of it, my Hamer electric was off Ebay as well. Love it too.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

No one in their right mind would buy gear without trying it first. I don't buy shoes without trying them on.
I've done so hundreds of times. the gear and the shoes a few times. If you buy the gear right, you can pretty much try it out for little or nothing if you don't like it.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

No one in their right mind would buy gear without trying it first. I don't buy shoes without trying them on.


I've bought many guitars off of ebay without every trying them. One turned out great, and all the rest of them have been fine.

One of the underlying problems with selling used gear is that chinese factories with CnC machines have gotten very good at producing decent quality gear at cheap prices. There's an absolute glut of gear available to everybody. I honestly think if all of the guitar and amp companies shut down for the next 5 years equipment still wouldn't become scarce.
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

I've been trying to sell a Yamaha electronic kick drum -- their top of the line model -- for 50% of what it's selling new. I've had it listed for almost two months in various places; I've tried eBay (even with a Best Offer button), Craigslist, Harmony Central, and other local resources. It sells online for about $400 and I'm listing it at $240 with shipping included. The box hasn't even been opened yet. Never used a single time. I haven't had one response yet, from any of those resources, in those two months. Well, not one response that wasn't from a scammer on eBay or Craigslist, anyway. After fees and shipping I'll be making $200 on the thing, tops. It's not even worth it to sell it for any cheaper than that. I'd have killed for one of these at that price before!
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Re: Are you having trouble selling gear?

I've been trying to sell a Yamaha electronic kick drum -- their top of the line model -- for 50% of what it's selling new. I've had it listed for almost two months in various places; I've tried eBay (even with a Best Offer button), Craigslist, Harmony Central, and other local resources. It sells online for about $400 and I'm listing it at $240 with shipping included. The box hasn't even been opened yet. Never used a single time.

I haven't had one response yet, from any of those resources, in those two months. Well, not one response that wasn't from a scammer on eBay or Craigslist, anyway.

After fees and shipping I'll be making $200 on the thing, tops. It's not even worth it to sell it for any cheaper than that. I'd have killed for one of these at that price before!


Obviously the first question that comes to mind is why would you want to sell this anyway?

That's another thing I've learned to do when writing my ads; I always list the reason for selling. eBay ads where the seller has simply pasted in factory spec/marketing data drive me crazy! I can look that shit up myself, post some personal information about the product!
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