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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by Urban Ghandi


Thanks!

By having the gain so low (I have it around 1pm) can you still get the harmonic squeels and sustain???

Those are the two things I cannot seem to bring out of this map without having the gain a little higher and an SD1 pushing it...oh yeah, and I have an EQ in the loop too.


I get a very full sound. I am pretty good at harmonic squeals, so I have no problem. I have an eq in the loop as well. It is used to et more of a metal tone out of the amp, but doesn't really help with squeals. I tried a friends modded TS808 last night. SHIOT!!!!! WOW!!!! Incredible.
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

I'm with you, my recto is a f*cking beast. I can pull off plexi's and everything else. I am in love.
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by Urban Ghandi



That is the miilion dollar question! :smileysad:

I am just suffering from a massive case of buyers remorse. Feeling burned after spending good money on the Dual Rectifer I am now leary of spending good money on another amp in fear that I won't get what I want either. A sad day indeed.

Paralized with indecision....

In short, I am a weenie! :smileywink:


That's understandable, but you shouldn't let your buyers remorse stand in the way of getting something that will suit you better.

Try to describe the type of tone are you going for,...are there any bands/players that you can sight as an example of the type of tone you're after?
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

I thought i'd revive this thread. I discovered a few weeks back as I sat across from the room on the floor infront of the 2x12 that I had a shitty tone. Standing beside the amp for the last month playing using my pedal board, I realized I should have been playing with the settings and sitting infront of the speakers.

That and I'm ditching all my overdrive and clean boost pedals in honor of the new time machine boost I got. I can use it as a vintage overdrive or a clean boost and its got some sweet tones but I havent had a chance to crank the rectoverb enough to really utilize it.

Finally had mesa boogie e-mail the schematic to switch my parallel effects loop to series so I can use my parametric eq and delays in the loop.

How about everyone toss in their favorite recto settings. I like looking at all the drastic differences people have and trying them out on my own setup and then tweaking to my own taste.
So everyone post up :smileyvery-happy:
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by StrykeBack
I thought i'd revive this thread. I discovered a few weeks back as I sat across from the room on the floor infront of the 2x12 that I had a shitty tone. Standing beside the amp for the last month playing using my pedal board, I realized I should have been playing with the settings and sitting infront of the speakers.

That and I'm ditching all my overdrive and clean boost pedals in honor of the new time machine boost I got. I can use it as a vintage overdrive or a clean boost and its got some sweet tones but I havent had a chance to crank the rectoverb enough to really utilize it.

Finally had mesa boogie e-mail the schematic to switch my parallel effects loop to series so I can use my parametric eq and delays in the loop.

How about everyone toss in their favorite recto settings. I like looking at all the drastic differences people have and trying them out on my own setup and then tweaking to my own taste.
So everyone post up :smileyvery-happy:


hehe, interesting. The day that I realized that I was getting truly not so great tones with my rectoverb is when i recorded it with my band and listened back.

I've been through all the tube combos. 6L6s, EL-34Ls, EL-34s. and on, trying to find THE tone in my rectoverb combo. When I got to the Ruby EL-34, I was pretty happy with the results for awhile. And believe me, I tweaked like a madman with the settings. constantly tweaking with so so tone, rarely ever WHOA!!!! you know?
So, i sold it and recently bought a Marshall DSL50. within minutes of pluggin in and turning up with my band, I fully realized what I was missing, and exactly what I was looking for. The recto with the el-34s was close, but I was after the Marshall sound. simple as that.

mesa rectos arn't for everyone. for ppl that like to downtune and want some serious thump, they'll really enjoy their rectos fitted with nice 6L6s for sure. Thats one thing that they do very well. In terms of its versatitlty, they as alright in low gain tones, but dont seem to have that sweet breakup tones that the marshall does so goddamm well. cleans seem a little stiff too.
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Thats one thing that they do very well. In terms of its versatitlty, they as alright in low gain tones, but dont seem to have that sweet breakup tones that the marshall does so goddamm well. cleans seem a little stiff too.


Interesting. the first thign I tried and impressed the heck out of me was the clean channel and how very fender deluxereverbish it was.

I've contemplated trying some rubys and maybe I will just for kicks. Just recently got a mix of preamp and power tubes from doug a mix of JJ and c9 preamps and sed 6l6s
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by LnTh
Oh, and im sure 3 channel version is just as good! I'm dying to check one out. GC's around my area dont seem to have em for some reason :confused:


They are probably always selling out of them (which can be good or bad depending on how you look at it):smileytongue:

I love my 3 channel voodoo modded recto, I've been using channel 2 modern for my high gain, It sounds great , I like the way the treble controls works as u turn it up and down. The amp seems to be mush dry the lower the treble is. It can almost seem like a different amp just by changing how the treble is set. I love the sound for solo's by switching the power amp to the tube rectifier's, although I'm almost always in bold/silicon

I have it set up with a c9 in V1, gt 12ax7m's in V2 - 4 jan ge 5751 in v5, gt 6ca7's in the power amp.
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by cobrahead1030
(and that's taking into consideration that god awful hissing sound i can't get rid of :smileysad: )


I think something might be wrong with yours, cause I dont have this problem with mine. My friend has one too and naver had that problem:confused: .

If you can get it fixed it might take over your cobra:smileywink: :smileytongue:
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

This is a really cool and informative thread :smileyhappy:
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by lefchr


I think something might be wrong with yours, cause I dont have this problem with mine. My friend has one too and naver had that problem:confused: .

If you can get it fixed it might take over your cobra:smileywink: :smileytongue:


there is a minor issue with it causing the noise

unfortunately there are no local techs competent enough to fix it

however, i don't see it moving in on the cobra anytime soon :smileywink:
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by StrykeBack

Finally had mesa boogie e-mail the schematic to switch my parallel effects loop to series so I can use my parametric eq and delays in the loop.



Any chance you might be able to post that schematic? :smileyhappy:

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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

The 2-channel, IMHO, is far better than the 3-channel.

I have multiple years experience with both and it ain't evenb close.

Better sustain, easier harmonics, cuts through the mix, warmer sounding, etc.

But, doesn't it strike anyone as strange that it takes soooo long to find these hidden good tones. Probably my biggest beef with 3-channel variety...f*ck, you spend that much on an amp and it should dial itself in!
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by Urban Ghandi
The 2-channel, IMHO, is far better than the 3-channel.

I have multiple years experience with both and it ain't evenb close.

Better sustain, easier harmonics, cuts through the mix, warmer sounding, etc.

But, doesn't it strike anyone as strange that it takes soooo long to find these hidden good tones. Probably my biggest beef with 3-channel variety...f*ck, you spend that much on an amp and it should dial itself in!


if you're just talking about the high gain 'recto signature' tone i'd say i agree with you

BUT the 3 channel offers better cleans, and more tones available, personally i think it's a pretty even trade overall...but everyones' tone needs are different
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Originally posted by Urban Ghandi


Thanks!

By having the gain so low (I have it around 1pm) can you still get the harmonic squeels and sustain???

Those are the two things I cannot seem to bring out of this map without having the gain a little higher and an SD1 pushing it...oh yeah, and I have an EQ in the loop too.


Couple of questions...

1) What guitar/pickups are you using?

2) How are you EQ'ing the amp from the loop?


I ask because I went through the exact same set of frustrations with my Road King early on. I now use an old (circa 1983) Boss GE-7 in the loop...always on. I slightly boost the 125, keep the 250 flat, emphasize the 400 & 800 sliders, then round off the rest. On the amp, I keep the bass under 11:00, the mids at noon, and the treble near zero. For solo's, I use Vintage High Gain/6L6's, Tube Recto, Bold. This gives me a nice, smooth lead tone...kind of chewy, but still good attack. I have little to no problem with sustain or harmonics. Oh, and I keep the gain around 1:00.


My guitar is a Les Paul with WCR Fillmores in it. (That has a lot to do with the harmonics, IMO.) I have guitars that actually are easier to play, but the Lester just sounds HUGE through the amp.
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Re: Time spent w/my Dual Rectifier,..interesting findings.

Thread resurrection.

I just got a Genz Benz G-Flex 2x12 and my DR sounds pretty different with it (same EQ settings)....lead tone got more nasal, rhythm tone got smoother...hope I get time to experiment at the weekend.

(compared with the Mesa Recto OZ 2x12 I have)

Point of note - the Genz Benz I was using at 16Ohms and the Mesa is of course 8 Ohms
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