Amps

[toelessfoot]

I went to the store to try the Spider Valve to see if I could use it for small gigs, and while it sounded great, the same lack of dynamics, as in the Spider IV, were present and would probably make it tough to hear the amp live.

I then noticed that the store had a JMD-1 100 watt head and so I tried it out through a 1960. It sounded pretty good, and didn't have any of the compression/dynamics issues from the spider valve. There was also a JVM next to it, so while the JMD1 tones were fresh in my memory I played through the JVM to see if I would notice any any glarring differences and I didn't. It seemed like maybe the edge of breakup tones were better in the JVM but otherwise they both sounded great.

So the new Marshall JMD-1 looks like it could fit the bill, plus it has sweet side handles for the load in/out.

[madryan]

My Marshall Pwn3s it...

[thinkpad20]

I wonder why side handles on 2x12 combos are so rare. I mean those things usually weigh a friggin ton, and they have a fucking plastic strap on the top or something :facepalm:

[madryan]

I wonder why side handles on 2x12 combos are so rare. I mean those things usually weigh a friggin ton, and they have a fucking plastic strap on the top or something :facepalm:

Amen...

Course I don't play combo's for that exact reason... I like my back just the way it is.

[Dewysoss]

Really did not enjoy the JMD I played...then again, it was running through a B52 cab

[tech21man]

I don't understand. The lack of dynamics etc. I actually starve for a 3-4 channel amp and it still won't light a candle to any midi tube preamp or a pod or whatever for having multiple variations even of just the marshall sounds in the same time.

Why does somebody have to switch from clean to rythm just with his playing? It is a hassle to me, my amp does it (EL-84's) and I am already thinking of adding a clean-clean amp (maybe solid state). Then I got my bluesy sound on the edge of breakup, then rock rythm heavy rythm lead etc.

I cannot understand why a "lack of dynamics" is something that will not allow an amp to be heard live. A simple peavey bandit is not the most dynamic amp in the world and damn if it doesn't sound loud. It kicks several small tube amps butt in that department even live and it also is a 112 combo.

The modelling thing however? Open up a flextone see how small everything is (and why not in the house it will do the job) and then you understand why it gives a power amp speaker cabinet knobs and pod sounds in a price just above the recent pods...


If the JMD does not run out of steam it will be heard. And if you say it sounds as good or close to a JVM in reasonable volumes with reasonable price then :thu: for marshall.


I also love the idea of side handles. The JVM 410c could be on my list just for that!

[Matter-Eater L…]

What the hell are you babbling about?

[Dewysoss]

What the hell are you babbling about?

this

[tele62]

Why the hell would anyone in their right mind use a modelled Mode Four or Haze?

Though I'm skeptical about the price and generally quality (especially based on Marshall's recent stuff), the modelling side of things was apparently done by Softube - and if you've ever played Vintage Amp Room you'll understand why that's a good thing.



Every clip I've heard of this amp sounds like fuzzy, harsh shit - even the official demo.

At first I thought it was just recording quality/compression, but it's the same horrible sound in every video so far.....

[youtube]EooMTY32Sd8[/youtube]

[youtube]8GVsoF9_ioc[/youtube]

[YOUTUBE]E3a4eCc71cI[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]XSvTngzccAo[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]RRdR8WgrdsQ[/YOUTUBE]

:facepalm:

[jeid2000]

What the hell are you babbling about?

+2

[thinkpad20]

I don't understand. The lack of dynamics etc. I actually starve for a 3-4 channel amp and it still won't light a candle to any midi tube preamp or a pod or whatever for having multiple variations even of just the marshall sounds in the same time.

Why does somebody have to switch from clean to rythm just with his playing? It is a hassle to me, my amp does it (EL-84's) and I am already thinking of adding a clean-clean amp (maybe solid state). Then I got my bluesy sound on the edge of breakup, then rock rythm heavy rythm lead etc.

I cannot understand why a "lack of dynamics" is something that will not allow an amp to be heard live. A simple peavey bandit is not the most dynamic amp in the world and damn if it doesn't sound loud. It kicks several small tube amps butt in that department even live and it also is a 112 combo.

The modelling thing however? Open up a flextone see how small everything is (and why not in the house it will do the job) and then you understand why it gives a power amp speaker cabinet knobs and pod sounds in a price just above the recent pods...


If the JMD does not run out of steam it will be heard. And if you say it sounds as good or close to a JVM in reasonable volumes with reasonable price then :thu: for marshall.


I also love the idea of side handles. The JVM 410c could be on my list just for that!

ummm.... wat?

[tele62]

ummm.... wat?

Doesn't sound like English as a first language does it?



I thought using Babelfish to translate that comment to German then back again would help me make more sense of it, but apparently not.

I don' t understand. The lack of dynamics etc. I verhungere really for 3-4 a channel ampere and it still won' T-light candle to any Midi Schlauchvorverstärker or to a case or whatever for credit of the repeated changes even straight of the marshal tones in the same time. Why does someone have from clean to the rhythm straight with its playing scolded? It is a controversy to me, my ampere does it (EL-84' s) and I think already of adding a clean-clean ampere (possibly fixed condition). Then received I mean courageless clay/tone on the edge of the breakup apart, then the heavy rhythm lead etc. of the rock rhythm. I cannot understand why " Lack dynamics" on; is something, which does not let an ampere heard phases be. A simple Peaveybandit is not the most dynamic ampere in the world and in the curse if it doesn' sound loud t. It steps some small hose ampere pushes in this department, which is even phases and it is also 112 combined. The modelling thing however? Open a flextone see, how small everything is (and why not in the house it settles the work) and then you understand, why it give an energy ampere loudspeaker cabinet rotary buttons and case tones in a price straight over the new cases… If the JMD does not run from steam, it is heard. And if you say, it sounds, as well or near at a JVM in the appropriate volumes with appropriate price then for marshal. I love also the idea of the lateral handles. The JVM 410c could be on my list straight for!

[toelessfoot]

A couple of those youtube clips do sound pretty unpleasant, but I had a pretty good time with it in store and it wasn't as fizzy or thin as those clips would imply.

It is modeling marshalls though and in my experience marshall are brighter and thinner sounding than most amps.

[RiffDaemon]

"If the JMD does not run from steam, it is heard"

I just shit myself laughing

[madryan]

I just shit myself laughing

You mean I can get new amp models and patches for HL-2 at the same time? :thu:

[pbecker314]

I gotta say, having gigged with the SV212 aand the SV212 Mkii and now the JMD501, that the JMD gives me everything I want in the core amp tone. Yes the effects are a bit limited and lacking in variety, compared with what you can get with the SV series, but I just played a show last night with the JMD501 and the clean tone (hit with a boost from the Z.Vex Super Hard On) was absolutely amazing with my Strat. Likewise, I was able to dial in some picture-perfect Marshall distortion tones for the lead parts that were unreal to hear on the live stage.

To be sure, there is a lot of experimentation to be done with this amp! It's no simple matter getting the tones you want. There is so much diversity that it's not easy to find "the best" tone for your music instantly. I have played around 15 shows with it and am still learning new tricks and tones. You can't gauge its depth at home, only the gig will really tell you what's what. At least that has been my experience. I try to dial in some approximate tones at home, then I tinker with them at the gig in the setting of the band mix. I did that agan last night to find the new lead tone I used. It doesn't sound that great by itself at home, but it sounded just perfect in the context of the band mix. I never experienced anything even close to that level of satisfaction with the SV series, either Mki or Mkii.

I also owned the HD500/DT25 combo and sold that upon buying the JMD501 and comparing them side to side. I did make one mod to the JMD501, which was to replace the **bleep** stock speaker with an Eminence Texas Heat. I also have a Cannabis Rex which I haven't even tried yet because I'm enjoying the Texas Heat in this amp so much. I mic it with an SM57 about halfway between the center and edge and it sounds fantastic through the PA. YMMV.

[charveldan]

Friedman KS JMP > jmd