Amps

[Steve2112]

PLEASE...for the love of all things holy, tell me why!!!!

I will reveal more information. Suffice it to say I'm not giving it away, It's a Randall RG75D G3...and it looks exactly like this:

(edit: Oh hell....I'll just tell ya. I've had it for sale for 200 bucks for 4 months or more. Numerous ebays/craigslist. My Mustang III is more versatile, but not NEAR the metal tone this thing has. I know it's worth 200. Right?  : )

[DFWXJER]

Have you considered taking suggestive pictures with it? Maybe amp porn would get you some Craigslist action.

[primeholy]

Two reasons I have are that it's solid state, and discontinued.

[Steve2112]

LOL at amp porn. Might not be a bad idea.

primeholy....yes, it's discontinued, but it does have a tube preamp, for what that is worth. Randall has a pretty good reputation for solid state. If there were a cheap Marshall side by side, I think most would chose the Randall for modern metal.

I did have one guy ask me if it was tube and made in the USA. For 200 dollars? Errr.... no.

{shrug} May have to do some sort of trade in or consignment.

[davebols]

Not to hijack your thread but how do you like the mustang? I got one about a month ago. I've used it with the band tree times now and i'm not sure about it. I've been useing a twin for forty years. am I asking too much out of it?  sorry  back to selling your amp.

[Blakkwater]

I used to have a Randall RG100SC 2x12 combo. (that was bascially the precursor to the G3 series. They also made a 75W 1x12 version of the RG100SC, which would be the direct precursor to your amp)

Nice cleans. OD1 was crisp and crunchy, killer 80s metal tones. OD2 was a horrible midscooped mess. Sounded like the arses of a million bees. It was also incredibly noisy. In addition to that, the thing was ludicrously heavy.

I sold it to some kid by touting the fact that Dimebag played Randall amps and you could get that classic solid state distortion with this amp. Never underestimate the power of adolescent noobs to a) not know jack squat about gear b) buy things that sound like ass.

[solitaire]

Could be a matter of economics, actually. Users that would buy used and non-all-valve are trying to make it past the holidays. Mother used to run a boutique and says business usually picks up as late as in February at first.

Then I would agree that had it been all-valve it would have attracted a different clientel that aren't as affected by the season.

[Steve2112]

Hi Dave...it's no problem!

I like the Mustang III. I have used it for practice and gigs. I've got about 6 presets that I use religiously. I think Fender did I nice job of keeping it a Fender. It doesn't try to do Mark IV, a Fireball or a Soldano. For me, it is an IDEAL practice tool that *can* hit the stage in certain conditions. A great "grab and go". FX are simple and usable. Better build quality than say a Vypyr. Digital artifacts are minimal, and it behaves much like a tube amp with the way feedback comes in (try the GAry Moore preset-sweet!) and it does react to guitar volume knob.

I have three issues:

1) A slight boxey sound- though that may be inherenet ina small combo format

2) Might be difficult to put a big speaker in there, as the speaker protrudes into the upper amp section. An EV12L would have too big of a lip and would not fit.

3) My biggest gripe is no external speaker out. I think it would sound GREAT into a 4x12 but Fender decided to not allow me to do that.

I also have a Twin...i've been using my 1964 Reverb for 25 years. It's been acting up a little bit, and it really belongs in the museum, lol. So I've gone through a LOT of amps to get it retired. Mustang has been one of my favorites, just for it's portability and versatility. Although I do love good tone, I just make the most with what I have.

What don't you like about it?

[Steve2112]

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Blakkwater wrote:

I used to have a Randall RG100SC 2x12 combo. (that was bascially the precursor to the G3 series. They also made a 75W 1x12 version of the RG100SC, which would be the direct precursor to your amp)

Nice cleans. OD1 was crisp and crunchy, killer 80s metal tones. OD2 was a horrible midscooped mess. Sounded like the arses of a million bees. It was also incredibly noisy. In addition to that, the thing was ludicrously heavy.

I sold it to some kid by touting the fact that Dimebag played Randall amps and you could get that classic solid state distortion with this amp. Never underestimate the power of adolescent noobs to a) not know jack squat about gear b) buy things that sound like ass.

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Yo cool story bro!

Ya, I guess we all had to start somewhere in our amp buying pursuits. Kids have it so much better these days than 70's early 80s. . If Dime inspries the kid to play, then...who are we to judge.

The thing is, this amp actually sounds pretty good. Randall can do solid state. I don't notice much of a difference between OD1 and OD 2. I hitnk one is supposed to be modern and the other vintage, but I essentially use them as mid and high gain channels. I think the mid shift and the mid sweep controls really help get a good tone. This amp also has a closed back and huge bass!

[Alton]

1) economy...it sucks now...will continue to suck long into the future

2) the nameplate says Randall...not Marshall, not Fender, not Peavey...too many think tone comes from nameplate.

3) tax refund hasn't come yet

4) quite frankly, electric guitars are not the "hot ticket" they used to be. In fact, music is not the "hot ticket" it used to be. Of course, this is a long range trend and does little to affect the current market. However, in uncertain times with a very lousy employment picture, the young (less than 30 years old) are more inclined to be conservative in their spending preferring an Xbox game which is more fun now and they think into the future than a guitar which is something they have to learn and practice and know little about maintaining. Xbox = quick reward & guitar = work and a future reward, maybe, perhaps. Every year you see it on Craigslist/ebay and other ads where junior is selling the "guitar pak" he got for Christmas or Hanukkah and more often than not is looking to trade for a game machine.

So you have rapidly shrinking economic opportunity + slowly shrinking market for music gear and together these equal slow sales or if you are really serious about moving it out then it forces sellers to drop prices and take a loss.

The amp = GOOD

The price = GOOD

The market = SUCK

So you keep it on Craigslist, maybe drop the price and hopefully it sells or you keep it. Trades are an option to explore but be open minded about what is true value to you.

[SGRocker30]

You could list that amp for $100 and it might take awhile, but you will sell it. I'm willing to bet you will never sell it for $200. The guy on ebay listing his for $359 on Ebay is smoking crack when the guy who listed his for $149.99 hasn't gotten one bid. If it were me I would list at $200 BIN or best offer. I would take the first offer over $100. Maybe you have a bunch of dough into it or some sentimental value though. In which case I hope you like the amp!

[DFWXJER]

Meet buyers with a gun

[Steve2112]

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SGRocker30 wrote:

You could list that amp for $100 and it might take awhile, but you will sell it. I'm willing to bet you will never sell it for $200. The guy on ebay listing his for $359 on Ebay is smoking crack when the guy who listed his for $149.99 hasn't gotten one bid. If it were me I would list at $200 BIN or best offer. I would take the first offer over $100. Maybe you have a bunch of dough into it or some sentimental value though. In which case I hope you like the amp!

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I agree the 350 is too much. The 150? You gotta be kidding. Of all the SHITTY amps that sell for much more? Tube amps included?

I paid more than 200 for it, but not a "bunch of dough". It served it's purpose when I needed it, but definitely not senti-metal. I think what I need to do is a clip or two. I bet you'd be surprised. The features are great (Sweepabl;e mids...are you kidding?), and the sound is very acceptable. I put up some clips and let you decide for yourself, da?

[Steve2112]

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DFWXJER wrote:
Meet buyers with a gun

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I'm going to ship it to you to sell it for me. Hookers, guns, what can go wrong!

[SGRocker30]

I am not kidding, he hasn't had one bid. There are roughly a billion solid state amps out there sitting unwanted in suburban basements across America. It doesn't matter what the name is on the amp, nor does it matter what it sounds like, the demand is low. As far as tube amps go, I just bought a 68 twin reverb, from a guitar store no less, for $475. If borderline vintage tube amps are going for that low, it stands to reason you aren't going to have much success with your amp unless you have patience and a fair amount of luck.

[Steve2112]

alright...do you think that 68 twin for 500 was a rare find? Should we judge the whole amp market based on your one purchase? I mean if you think that's the average going rate, fine just say so. We can all get twins for under 500 now. yea!

I do believe these are hard times. Hell...even in GOOD times post-Christmas and pre Tax is a tough time. Thanks for responding you have provided good insight.

[SGRocker30]

I'm not really sure why you are so defensive. In a roundabout way you asked for an honest assessment of the value you placed on your amp. If I am wrong, and you are right, then why hasn't anyone purchased your amp? I suppose besides unrealistic expectations your manner and personality may be getting in the way of a possible sale. Certainly my score on the Twin doesn't mean that we are all going to get the same deal, but I will find 10 Twins at that price before you find one buyer for your amp at $200. 

[bdubbs]

I think the easy answer is that demand is so low it doesn't really matter the price. Just like my peavey 412M cab. Its worth more than $100 but I couldn't even get $100 for it.

[Steve2112]

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[primeholy]

Fuck. Some things never change. Way to go guy.