Amps

[teemuk]

"Nearly unusable"... sometimes. "Totally unusable".... way more often.


...and your approximation of time is off by a few years.

Good job Harmoby Central!

[nightflameauto]

Originally Posted by OverDriven

I think the problem with this forum goes deeper than technical issues. The real root of the problem is poor monetization, which results in poor ROI, which results in low cash flow, which results in poor hardware and staff.

The problem with this theory is the fact they did the jive 2.0 debacle. A clear indicator they aren't afraid of throwing huge amounts of money at the problem. I think the real problem is the decision makers want flashy, fancy image filled shit and THAT'S where they want to put the money. Screw putting any investment into functionality.

I'm still surprised they rolled back after that hose up on the forums. I'm guessing they still make something off ad revenue or they wouldn't have given a shit that people were leaving in droves.

Sadly, the decision makers can likely point at that mess now any time a possible fix is mentioned and say, "but we already wasted $X on it and look what that got us!" And the spiral of fail continues.

The whole story seems depressingly familiar for anybody involved in IT where the people with the knowledge are prevented from steering policy and/or spending.

[nightflameauto]

Originally Posted by OverDriven

I think the problem with this forum goes deeper than technical issues. The real root of the problem is poor monetization, which results in poor ROI, which results in low cash flow, which results in poor hardware and staff.

The problem with this theory is the fact they did the jive 2.0 debacle. A clear indicator they aren't afraid of throwing huge amounts of money at the problem. I think the real problem is the decision makers want flashy, fancy image filled shit and THAT'S where they want to put the money. Screw putting any investment into functionality.

I'm still surprised they rolled back after that hose up on the forums. I'm guessing they still make something off ad revenue or they wouldn't have given a shit that people were leaving in droves.

Sadly, the decision makers can likely point at that mess now any time a possible fix is mentioned and say, "but we already wasted $X on it and look what that got us!" And the spiral of fail continues.

The whole story seems depressingly familiar for anybody involved in IT where the people with the knowledge are prevented from steering policy and/or spending.

[madrigal77]

Weeks? Try years. Oh, there's a little bit of time where it works ok, but it never lasts long.

[madrigal77]

Weeks? Try years. Oh, there's a little bit of time where it works ok, but it never lasts long.

[facefirst]

Originally Posted by nightflameauto

The problem with this theory is the fact they did the jive 2.0 debacle. A clear indicator they aren't afraid of throwing huge amounts of money at the problem. I think the real problem is the decision makers want flashy, fancy image filled shit and THAT'S where they want to put the money. Screw putting any investment into functionality.

I'm still surprised they rolled back after that hose up on the forums. I'm guessing they still make something off ad revenue or they wouldn't have given a shit that people were leaving in droves.

Sadly, the decision makers can likely point at that mess now any time a possible fix is mentioned and say, "but we already wasted $X on it and look what that got us!" And the spiral of fail continues.

The whole story seems depressingly familiar for anybody involved in IT where the people with the knowledge are prevented from steering policy and/or spending.

Pretty much this. The overall look and feel of the forum is fine. The functionality is complete shit. When they rolled out the new and improved 2.0, they only managed to change up the look. Worse yet they somehow brought about even worse functionality. It's bush league.

[facefirst]

Originally Posted by nightflameauto

The problem with this theory is the fact they did the jive 2.0 debacle. A clear indicator they aren't afraid of throwing huge amounts of money at the problem. I think the real problem is the decision makers want flashy, fancy image filled shit and THAT'S where they want to put the money. Screw putting any investment into functionality.

I'm still surprised they rolled back after that hose up on the forums. I'm guessing they still make something off ad revenue or they wouldn't have given a shit that people were leaving in droves.

Sadly, the decision makers can likely point at that mess now any time a possible fix is mentioned and say, "but we already wasted $X on it and look what that got us!" And the spiral of fail continues.

The whole story seems depressingly familiar for anybody involved in IT where the people with the knowledge are prevented from steering policy and/or spending.

Pretty much this. The overall look and feel of the forum is fine. The functionality is complete shit. When they rolled out the new and improved 2.0, they only managed to change up the look. Worse yet they somehow brought about even worse functionality. It's bush league.

[ChuckSteak]

Everyone's an expert here, yet no real solutions or answers.

[ChuckSteak]

Everyone's an expert here, yet no real solutions or answers.

[katillac]

Originally Posted by ChuckSteak

Everyone's an expert here, yet no real solutions or answers.

And your solution/answer is..? Real ideas for solutions have been posted.

[katillac]

Originally Posted by ChuckSteak

Everyone's an expert here, yet no real solutions or answers.

And your solution/answer is..? Real ideas for solutions have been posted.

[Nick H]

If the site isn't making enough money for MF to fix it properly, then why doesn't someone just buy it off them cheap, fix it up and get rich of the revenue?

[Nick H]

If the site isn't making enough money for MF to fix it properly, then why doesn't someone just buy it off them cheap, fix it up and get rich of the revenue?

[Pepi]

Mother Fucking Piece of Mother Fucking SHIT

[Pepi]

Mother Fucking Piece of Mother Fucking SHIT

[ChuckSteak]

Originally Posted by katillac

And your solution/answer is..? Real ideas for solutions have been posted.

Aee these real solutions based on the actual knowledge of the application/data layers/servers? The only solutions offered here are based off of speculation on what someone perceives to be the problem. "Cloning the forum" isn't a real solution and no real solutions could be legitimately offered without knowing all the aspects of the problem including, traffic, servers, costs, data and application layers as well as the other associated costs such as maintenance and revenue.

The reality is that none of us could actually provide a real solution without knowing the scope of the issues.

I know some people here like to think that they know everything, but their solution is nothing more than blowing smoke out of their ass.

There is no point in offering a solution to a problem that I'm not privy to know the details of.

[ChuckSteak]

Originally Posted by katillac

And your solution/answer is..? Real ideas for solutions have been posted.

Aee these real solutions based on the actual knowledge of the application/data layers/servers? The only solutions offered here are based off of speculation on what someone perceives to be the problem. "Cloning the forum" isn't a real solution and no real solutions could be legitimately offered without knowing all the aspects of the problem including, traffic, servers, costs, data and application layers as well as the other associated costs such as maintenance and revenue.

The reality is that none of us could actually provide a real solution without knowing the scope of the issues.

I know some people here like to think that they know everything, but their solution is nothing more than blowing smoke out of their ass.

There is no point in offering a solution to a problem that I'm not privy to know the details of.

[nightflameauto]

Hey Chuck, eat a dick. Unless you're Bain management, I think you should stick your "nobody's qualified to offer a theory" shit right back up the ass it came out of.



People who have dealt with the reality of IT management being utterly clueless in the face of facts for over 15 years are probably at least a *LITTLE* qualified to offer an opinion on the situation evolving here. So, again, eat a dick. If this place stops accepting opinions, it just as well cease to exist. Granted, it's trying really hard, but it hasn't happened yet.

[nightflameauto]

Hey Chuck, eat a dick. Unless you're Bain management, I think you should stick your "nobody's qualified to offer a theory" shit right back up the ass it came out of.



People who have dealt with the reality of IT management being utterly clueless in the face of facts for over 15 years are probably at least a *LITTLE* qualified to offer an opinion on the situation evolving here. So, again, eat a dick. If this place stops accepting opinions, it just as well cease to exist. Granted, it's trying really hard, but it hasn't happened yet.

[100 watt]