Amps

[GRIMESPACE]

Glad to see you got this started, Edge - looking forward to the Depth control!

[primeholy]

My clean channel is way too bright when I dial in my dirty. Is there a preamp swap that might help?

[jenksdrummer]

Originally Posted by OceansBetweenUs

Oh I know. I just went back and checked Billy's JCA pedal thread - the Hardwire Delay and Reverb work, but not the chorus

I already have the EHX Nano Holy Grail that works great in the loop.


I have the G Major, but I hate fiddling with the patches and have decided I prefer the plug and playability of single pedals more.

Chorus seems to work fine with the 22H

[67mike]

Originally Posted by primeholy

My clean channel is way too bright when I dial in my dirty. Is there a preamp swap that might help?

Can try a ecc81 or 5751 in V2.

I am currently running a ecc81 in V2 and a 5751 in V3......I like it as it cleans up the crunch a bit...but you do loose some volume on the crunch channel.

I think I will try just a 5751 in V2 and go back to a 12ax7 in V3 next time I decide to F' with it.

[t-rey]

Got my 22h yesterday. So far I am very impressed. I'm still getting used to it and messing around with the eq, but mostly I'm just playing giant HoF style riffs since it pretty much nails that tone. Right now the plan is to aby it with my Blackstar HT-5 but the the only cabs I have are a Marshall 1966b 2x12 for the Blackstar and an old Sunn 4x10 that the Jet City is on. It works fine for now, but the JCA seems to sound better with the 12s and closed back of the Marshall.

So what kind of cabs and/or speakers tend to work well with them? I have been looking at Whitebox a bit for obvious reasons, but thought you guys might have some suggestions.

Also, what sort of preamp tubes work well with it? I have a Tungsol in my Blackstar that worked really well, so I may try those...but thought I would ask here first as well.

[67mike]

Originally Posted by t-rey

Got my 22h yesterday. So far I am very impressed. I'm still getting used to it and messing around with the eq, but mostly I'm just playing giant HoF style riffs since it pretty much nails that tone. Right now the plan is to aby it with my Blackstar HT-5 but the the only cabs I have are a Marshall 1966b 2x12 for the Blackstar and an old Sunn 4x10 that the Jet City is on. It works fine for now, but the JCA seems to sound better with the 12s and closed back of the Marshall.

So what kind of cabs and/or speakers tend to work well with them? I have been looking at Whitebox a bit for obvious reasons, but thought you guys might have some suggestions.

Also, what sort of preamp tubes work well with it? I have a Tungsol in my Blackstar that worked really well, so I may try those...but thought I would ask here first as well.

Well I basically spent the whole afternoon fucking around with different tubes in my JCA22 Head.

What sounds best to me is:

Sovteck 12ax7wa in V1,2 4 and stick a 5751 in V3. Loving it. V5 also has a Sovteck but I think it is a WB instead of WA...but not 100% for sure on that. I have JJ EL84s as well.

Kick ass amp.....My Blackstar (which I loved dearly) is colecting dust in the computer room.

[t-rey]

I spent about half an hour running both amps at once. I am a huge fan of the way they blend together. My wife it not a fan. At all.

How do you feel like the new tubes changed the overall tone? I have only had the chance to play at low volume, but I feel like the tone with the stock tubes is kind of fuzzy and harsh - which is not exactly a bad thing mind you.

And I agree - the JCA makes the Blackstar feel like a toy at times. Running both at once feels more like the Blackstar is adding something to the tone of the JCA instead of two amps blending together.

[67mike]

Originally Posted by t-rey

I spent about half an hour running both amps at once. I am a huge fan of the way they blend together. My wife it not a fan. At all.

How do you feel like the new tubes changed the overall tone? I have only had the chance to play at low volume, but I feel like the tone with the stock tubes is kind of fuzzy and harsh - which is not exactly a bad thing mind you.

And I agree - the JCA makes the Blackstar feel like a toy at times. Running both at once feels more like the Blackstar is adding something to the tone of the JCA instead of two amps blending together.

Getting the crap chinese tubes out got rid of some FIZZ and made it LESS harsh. Running the 5751 in V3 got rid of more fiz and also cleaned up the crunch channel "slightly" ....it runs 70% of the gain of a 12ax7.

[Critical Ninja]

Just got word that my JCA22H shipped yesterday, so I should have it by Tuesday. From the sounds of things here, I better order some new tubes for it...

[67mike]

Originally Posted by Critical Ninja

Just got word that my JCA22H shipped yesterday, so I should have it by Tuesday. From the sounds of things here, I better order some new tubes for it...

Yes.....throw the chinese crappola in a shoe box!

[Edge11]

Ok guys I'm going to upload the corrected schematic and the corrected schematic with the s.l.o mods. I installed a nos 12au7 into my v4 slot, I'm going to try it out as soon as I'm done with uploading the schematics.

[FastRedPonyCar]

Originally Posted by 67mike

Yes.....throw the chinese crappola in a shoe box!

Actually only replacing 2 or 3 of the preamp tubes is what I would consider "necessary".

I swapped the stock power tubes with both a pair of Sovteks and a pair of JJ's and neither really offered any appreciable difference vs stock.

[t-rey]

Originally Posted by FastRedPonyCar

Actually only replacing 2 or 3 of the preamp tubes is what I would consider "necessary".

I swapped the stock power tubes with both a pair of Sovteks and a pair of JJ's and neither really offered any appreciable difference vs stock.

What preamp tubes did you like in there?

Also, anybody care to comment on what speakers go well with the Jet City stuff - specifically the 22h? I have realized that the nasty tone I have been hearing is mostly coming from the cab I was using with it. The cab sounded decent on it's own, but when both amps were running at once (through separate cabs, not a stereo cab) it was a nasty buzzy tone, which was still present when I switched the amps and tried again.

Anyways - I found a Marshall 1961b (giant 2x12) local that I may pic up since the JCA seems to do okay with the t75s in my other cab. Any thoughts or suggestions about (cheap) cabs to go well with it?

[FastRedPonyCar]

really any speakers will work IMO. I've used anything from my splawn 4x12 and whitebox 2x12 to my little avatar 1x12 with a clestion H30 and they all sound great.

For tubes, I've got a NOS RFT 12ax7 I got off a guy on ebay in preamp sockets 1 and 2 and a ruby HG in V5.

[Edge11]

Both my 20 and 22h sound amazing with veteran 30s and green backs mixed.

[67mike]

Originally Posted by FastRedPonyCar

Actually only replacing 2 or 3 of the preamp tubes is what I would consider "necessary".

I swapped the stock power tubes with both a pair of Sovteks and a pair of JJ's and neither really offered any appreciable difference vs stock.

Actually the stock chinese EL84's are pretty hardy....I swapped mine out simply for reliability. I ended up putting one of the chinese EL84's into my bugera V5 combo which is a really hard amp to control tube rattle......the chinese EL84 combined with a JJ ECC81 FIXED that tube rattling little monster!!!! Now, how long it lasts is altogether another story.

I FRICKEN LOVE the JCA 22 head with the tubes I've got into it...JJ EL84's, Sovteck 12ax7wa in V1, V2, V4. NOS USA made 5751 in V3, and Sovteck 12ax7wB in V5......KILLER!!!!!!!!!!!!

[t-rey]

I'm hopefully picking up an old 5150 cab for a nice price to run with my 22h on Friday. They are supposed to sound pretty good with JCA/Soldano type stuff, and the speakers are the Sheffield 1200s which are supposed to be really similar to Greenbacks. Should be a good compliment to the Blackstar/Celestion 75 combo. Can't wait.

I will hopefully be ordering some preamp tubes this week as well to help tame some of the fizzys

[67mike]

Originally Posted by t-rey

I'm hopefully picking up an old 5150 cab for a nice price to run with my 22h on Friday. They are supposed to sound pretty good with JCA/Soldano type stuff, and the speakers are the Sheffield 1200s which are supposed to be really similar to Greenbacks. Should be a good compliment to the Blackstar/Celestion 75 combo. Can't wait.

I will hopefully be ordering some preamp tubes this week as well to help tame some of the fizzys

Guy local to me has a 5150 cab for asking price of $200............If I didn't have a taylor guitar for my daughter on the way, and a new laptop just bought.....I might be able to afford it......

Am I crazy for not hittin it????

[Edge11]

Originally Posted by 67mike

Guy local to me has a 5150 cab for asking price of $200............If I didn't have a taylor guitar for my daughter on the way, and a new laptop just bought.....I might be able to afford it......

Am I crazy for not hitting it????

I'm not a big fan of the Sheffield I find them a bit muddy. in my 6506 combo I replaced one of the Sheffield with a k-100.

[67mike]

Originally Posted by Edge11

I'm not a big fan of the Sheffield I find them a bit muddy. in my 6506 combo I replaced one of the Sheffield with a k-100.

Thanks.

Good thing too.....wife has had enough of my purchases....time to slooooooow down a bit.