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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

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I guess we're back to 'you get what you pay for' (why does that sound familiar?)

do you want to spend the money for an SL2, or do you want the quality level of an SLX?
The quality factor is subjective. It always buggers me how so many musicians have such snotty/snobbish/smug attitudes about gear, and fail to accept the long standing principle that one mans junk is another mans treasure.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

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The quality factor is subjective. It always buggers me how so many musicians have such snotty/snobbish/smug attitudes about gear, and fail to accept the long standing principle that one mans junk is another mans treasure.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

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The quality factor is subjective. It always buggers me how so many musicians have such snotty/snobbish/smug attitudes about gear, and fail to accept the long standing principle that one mans junk is another mans treasure.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Floyd Rose Special is the korean FR, right?

I think the only difference between it and the OFR is it has zinc saddles and block instead of steel/brass.

edit: yeah - from the Floyd Rose site

"The Floyd Rose Special is our Authentic version of a licensed Floyd Rose tremolo system manufactured in Korea exclusively for Floyd Rose. The Floyd Rose Special maintains the construction parameters and features of an Original Floyd Rose, while utilizing zinc alloy saddles in place of steel and a zinc alloy sustain block in place of brass. The design specifications and high quality materials of the Special Series Floyd Rose bridge will hold up to the demands of today's performers."

I have one of these on my Floyd Rose discovery guitar and it's awesome.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Quote Originally Posted by LynchProtoge View Post
The quality factor is subjective. It always buggers me how so many musicians have such snotty/snobbish/smug attitudes about gear, and fail to accept the long standing principle that one mans junk is another mans treasure.
I'll just call bullshit on this right now.

If you are a bedroom player, then yeah, the quality factor MAY be subjective......especially if re-tuning your guitar every ten minutes is no big deal. But if you are a a working semi-pro or pro, and you don't want to have to re-tune your guitar between every song in a set, then you get an original Floyd with real hardened steel parts. And please don't tell us how great the licensed floyd is on your garbage 6 month old guitar .......blah, blah, blah. Go put 10,000 cycles on it, then come back here and tell us how it doesn't know what the fuck return to zero is.

Nothing "snobbish" about that. Just common sense.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Quote Originally Posted by peavey_impact View Post
Floyd Rose Special is the korean FR, right?

I think the only difference between it and the OFR is it has zinc saddles and block instead of steel/brass.

edit: yeah - from the Floyd Rose site

"The Floyd Rose Special is our Authentic version of a licensed Floyd Rose tremolo system manufactured in Korea exclusively for Floyd Rose. The Floyd Rose Special maintains the construction parameters and features of an Original Floyd Rose, while utilizing zinc alloy saddles in place of steel and a zinc alloy sustain block in place of brass. The design specifications and high quality materials of the Special Series Floyd Rose bridge will hold up to the demands of today's performers."

I have one of these on my Floyd Rose discovery guitar and it's awesome.
Sorry, but the marketing material does nothing to change my mind. There are various degress of steel hardening and the Floyd special just doesn't have it. Plus I've cracked enough of those string retainers on the cheap floyd to know their is a difference.

I've read that little blurb about how the special are "just as good" as the real thing too, but the last FR special I filed down had a zinc plating on the posts and knife edges, and the posts were so soft the knife edges had gouged ridges in them. That was on a 4 year old guitar. I have never seen that type of wear on an original Floyd Rose.....not even a 20 year old one.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

^ what guitar had this shitty FR Special you filed down? Just curious


Hell, I end up with cracked string retainers on my old german Schallers about once a year. I've only had the FR Special a couple years now but so far so good. Feel-wise it's as good as any other Floyd I've owned.

edit: mine actually looks EXACTLY like an OFR. It was before they started calling them "Floyd Rose Specials"
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Just to add fuel to the fire, every licensed floyd I've had has been shite.

Every OFR I've had have lasted and lasted. I have a few bridges encroaching on near 20 years old and not needed the slightest bit of maintenance. And I abuse my trems plenty enough.

Trying to tell anyone with any common sense that a cheap licensed floyd is "just as good" as an OFR is like sticking feathers up your arse and making clucking sounds.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

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^ what guitar had this shitty FR Special you filed down? Just curious
It was a Wolfgang Special EXP. I believe the FR on that comes from Gotoh. But it wasn't just that guitar. It's every FR knockoff I've ever dealt with. They start out fine, but they just don't last. If you don't use them a lot you may never see it. The steel on them is just complete shit.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

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It was a Wolfgang Special EXP. I believe the FR on that comes from Gotoh.
Well, that's a completely different trem.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Yes, that particular one was not a "special", but that's splitting hairs..........and you know it.

That said, I have guitars with "real FR specials" (did I just say that?) on them, that are every bit as crappy as the other FR knockoffs.

If specials were so good, you'd see more pros playing them. I've owned a crazy amount of guitars over the years (many with FR's) and I can tell you I have never seen a FR knockoff perform as good as a real FR. Never.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Quote Originally Posted by Northernrebel View Post
Yes, that particular one was not a "special", but that's splitting hairs..........and you know it.

That said, I have guitars with "real FR specials" (did I just say that?) on them, that are every bit as crappy as the other FR knockoffs.

If specials were so good, you'd see more pros playing them. I've owned a crazy amount of guitars over the years (many with FR's) and I can tell you I have never seen a FR knockoff perform as good as a real FR. Never.
What guitars do you have with FR Specials? I think that was the original question.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Well as far as I know the FR Special has only been made since about 2008 or 2009 (somewhere around there) so that would be a big reason why you don't see too many people using them.

As far as your statement that "real FR Specials are every bit as crappy as the other FR knockoffs.".....that's just not true at all, and I can't understand how anyone who has used one would say that.

If I didn't know any better I'd say you were bullshitting me....how bout you post up some pics of your guitars with "real FR specials"?



Note that I never said the FR Special is as good as an OFR, or even a Schaller FR, but I do think you are selling them short and possibly misleading others.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

So, I'm bullshitting you because I'm saying FR's are better than FR specials? Are you fucking retarded or something?

To answer the question, I currently have an LTD MH 350 with a special in it. I also installed a special in an old (EXP) Kramer (when the specials first came out). Two is enough to know they are inferior to FR's.

And really? Take photos of guitars? That's not proof of anything......anyone can pull a photo off the Internet.

If you want to believe that FR specials are every bit as good as FR's go right ahead.

But quite honestly, you are a moron for thinking so.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

I see reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.


May I ask why you have the LTD with an FR Special AND installed one on an old Kramer if they are such pieces of shit?

Edit: actually, I don't even give a shit. We've derailed this poor guy's thread enough.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

I "upgraded" the worn out trem on the Kramer a few years ago to give the special a try.

The LTD was sold to me on a deal from a friend last year who started playing, but then gave it up.

The real question is why the fuck do you care?

The fact that you are still arguing that FR specials are so good only proves how fucking retarded you are.
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Re: Jackson Soloist SLX

Are you 12 years old or something? Chill out.
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