Flogger59 wrote:
Welp, at least it loads. I figger a week before we're back to normal.
That is such a wrong attitude. What you're SUPPOSED to think is that less than 24 hours after launching a complex website on a new platform that was rushed into operation because of frustration with how the previous forums were, everything is supposed to be perfect and all the change requests people have asked for will have been implemented. Also, that nothing will ever improve or change, that I'm personally responsible, and MF has daily meetings about how best to kill the site.
Please re-edit your post to have the proper attitude. 
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Pine Apple Slim wrote:
Because the content side of Jive got 5 MILLION HITS in the last full month it was operational. There are videos that have gotten tens of thousands of views, and articles that have are about to break six digits of views. The newsletter has a higher circulation that many music magazines. Pro Reviews get hundreds of thousands of views.
THAT CONTENT IS MOST OF WHAT SUPPORTS THE FORUMS AND LETS YOU **bleep**. So, you're welcome.
LOL. So Jive was a FIASCO, or the greatest thing since sliced bread? I really dont care about anything other than this forum is a place find I want to be, or not.
In its present condition, its not a place I want to be.
I doubt I'm the only one. Good luck with your "content".
The content was hosted on the Jive side even after I got MF to switch back to vBulletin, and was hosted on there until midnight last night. It sucked until the very end, but that didn't prevent people who wanted to learn techniques and tips from gracing it with millions of hits every months, or other sites from linking to the information.
Now, if you have complaints about the ARTICLES AND VIDEOS, you're talking to the right person. if you have complaints about the forum, YOU'RE NOT. Go to the feedback forum and bitch there, where the people who matter will hear you.
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Axe_34 wrote:
Anderton -- I appreciate all the work that has gone into this. I really do.
I think what you're seeing is a response from people who went through the v.2 debacle.
I would think the one big take-away from v.2 is that members of a community -- when they voice their opinions -- don't like being told why the change is good for them and why they should like it.
I've spent a lifetime in public affairs and I can tell you true acceptance comes from within, not from a spokesperson's arguments.
Talk to me about going through the v2 debacle.
There are two reasons to voice opinions. One is to try and effect change. That is why the feedback forum exists. No one is being told they should like this, I have numerous complaints myself. The difference is that I am voicing them where it matters. If people here cared about these forums, they'd try to get the changes they want implemented. It's not hard. If they go to the feedback forum, they can make their voices heard.
The other reason to voice opinions is to let off frustrations. That's understandable, but it doesn't give the people who COULD make changes anything tangible to go on.
This idea that something is being shoved down people's throats with "take it or leave it" is half-right. The half that's right is we're committed to getting off Jive and vBulletin once and for all. That can't be changed at this point. What CAN be changed is the look, feel, and functionality of this forum, in accordance with what can be done within the constraints of this paricular platform, which are pretty open-ended.
This is calculus: first approximation, second approximation, third approximation, etc. until it ends up where it needs to be.
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Well why did we evr get rid of the old review section? That was never resolved or told in a proper manner imo, SHAME SHAME SHAME on whoever made that decsion, we lost some much valuable info that its almost criminal, there should have been a way to sabe that old information somehwere, no excuse for that debacle
That old place was INVALUABLE to anyone who wanted to purshase a piece of gear --- old, new, expensive, cheap, guitar, amps, pedal, drums, etc it was all there.. well written and easy to read with WONDERFULL INSIGHTFULL HELPFULL information, why did you guys ever let that section just disapear and die is mind-numbing
I prever VBulletin over his on so many levels, from ease of use, to eye, sights configuration, etc, etc thats my 02, i wish we stayed on V bulletin or can go back if needed
guitarbilly74 wrote:
I am pretty sure a large part of 5 millions of hits they get was people trying to read the "user reviews" on the content site and/or getting lost trying to get there, after all, that thing was a maze.
It's typical corporate **bleep**, looking at numbers, stats etc and thinking they know what the community needs. Meanwhile, out in the real world, Harmony Central was ALWAYS been known as a site for USER reviews and discussions. It's sad really.
Given that you never checked out the content, it's not surprising you're clueless as to how many views the articles, videos, pro reviews, etc. have received. And we're talking VIEWS FOR THOSE SPECIFIC TYPES OF CONTENT, not just hits from people clicking on the site. I'm sorry if it goes against your prejudices, but a huge number of people enjoy the content.
Also, there are NO reviews of any kind on the site right now - user reviews, pro reviews, articles, nothing. That still has to be built out and will take a few weeks. But it was decided people would rather have forums where you could actually post stuff rather than wait.
Also, HC ALWAYS had content and articles, back to when Scott was first running it. It ALWAYS served two types of users, being part magazine and part community. But you probably didn't give a crap about the content back then either, even though it got huge numbers back then as well. One of the reasons I was hired was in order to make sure that element didn't go away. It didn't. I've done my job, and I've advocated for the community and the forums.
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Pine Apple Slim wrote:
Anderton,
If the forum is not your job, then stop making excuses for it and go back to your articles. Then nobody will be on your case. But if you gonna come on here and make excuses for this **bleep** then bend over and take it.
Interesting how you never address my points.
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Marshredder wrote:
What actually happened to all the original user reviews that made HC great originally? Are they gone?
I wish I knew. I do know that any user reviews since 2010 are still around.
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Originally Posted by BrendanO
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