You can thank Google for the language censor. They have flagged us as having "offensive content" and because of that, prevented us from serving particular ads, and it's quite a few of them (and we kinda have to have ads to pay the bills). As we don't have enough mods to clean things up to their standards, we put in the filter. So our choices are either more mods dedicated to cleaning things up, not paying the bills, trying to talk sense to Google (good luck with that), or putting in a filter. Agreed - it sux, but so do the choices.
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Originally Posted by baijunwei
Listen, you can blame me all you want, but I'm the person (along with the other mods) who tries to advocate for the community. I'm the one who got MF to switch back to vBulletin after the Jive fiasco, I was the one sending frantic email messages before Jive launched saying it wasn't ready and not to launch it, I'm the one who said this site needed more time before going public so the mods could beat up on it and find problems, I'm the one who said put a 5% gray screen behind the fonts and make them darker, I'm the one who said that people having to get their user names back manually would be a huge deal, and I'm the one who went into the system and personally reset Marshredder's user name so he could have his user name and post count back.
Bitching at me doesn't do any good, I'm not driving the site, I'm the Editor in Chief and I'm in charge of producing content. Go bitch in the feedback forum, where the people who you want to have listen to you will listen to you.
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extollo wrote:
mmm. business reasons.
curious, do you have particular guidelines so you know the filter will get you off the offensive content list?
edit: if i understand correctly google is providing their approved filter here.. yes?
we've gone corporate :cry:
This site has never made money. The "business reasons" are to try and reduce how much it loses.
Google was VERY arbitrary and the first time they flagged us was for one of the threads (I think it was in amps) that just had pictures of pretty women. None of them were x-rated, hell, none of them were R-rated. They sent us their "guidelines" which are bullshit. They said we couldn't run pictures of women in "sexually suggestive poses" and I wrote back that would also censor most guitar company ads. They have been totally vague. Frankly, you'll have a better and more fun time being audited by the IRS than being audited by Google.
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guitarbilly74 wrote:
Anderton wrote:Listen, you can blame me all you want, but I'm the person (along with the other mods) who tries to advocate for the community. I'm the one who got MF to switch back to vBulletin after the Jive fiasco, I was the one sending frantic email messages before Jive launched saying it wasn't ready and not to launch it, I'm the one who said this site needed more time before going public so the mods could beat up on it and find problems, 'm the one who said put a 5% gray screen behind the fonts and make them darker, I'm the one who said that people having to get their user names back manually would be a huge deal, and I'm the one who went into the system and personally reset Marshredder's user name so he could have his user name and post count back.
**bleep** at me doesn't do any good, I'm not driving the site, I'm the Editor in Chief and I'm in charge of producing content. Go **bleep** in the feedback forum, where the people who you want to have listen to you will listen to you.
"I'm in charge of producing content".
Actually, we the users are the ones in charge of producing content we actually care about. I am "b-i-t-c-h-i-n-g" at you because you are the one who posted this stuff about censorship being needed for advertisement, which is RIDICULOUS.
If you are not in charge, then don't bother coming here with your excuses. Go write a "pro review" or something.
OH SHI....
guitarbilly74 wrote:
Anderton wrote:
Listen, you can blame me all you want, but I'm the person (along with the other mods) who tries to advocate for the community. I'm the one who got MF to switch back to vBulletin after the Jive fiasco, I was the one sending frantic email messages before Jive launched saying it wasn't ready and not to launch it, I'm the one who said this site needed more time before going public so the mods could beat up on it and find problems, 'm the one who said put a 5% gray screen behind the fonts and make them darker, I'm the one who said that people having to get their user names back manually would be a huge deal, and I'm the one who went into the system and personally reset Marshredder's user name so he could have his user name and post count back.
**bleep** at me doesn't do any good, I'm not driving the site, I'm the Editor in Chief and I'm in charge of producing content. Go **bleep** in the feedback forum, where the people who you want to have listen to you will listen to you.
"I'm in charge of producing content".
Actually, we the users are the ones in charge of producing content we actually care about. I am "b-i-t-c-h-i-n-g" at you because you are the one who posted this stuff about censorship being needed for advertisement, which is RIDICULOUS.
If you are not in charge, then don't bother coming here with your excuses. Go write a "pro review" or something.
Listen up. The content side of Jive got 5 MILLION HITS in the last full month it was operational. There are videos that have gotten tens of thousands of views, and articles that have are about to break six digits of views. The newsletter has a higher circulation that many music magazines. Pro Reviews get hundreds of thousands of views. That's what I'm in charge of. There are two types of content on this site, the forums and the articles/videos/reviews. Some read the articles and don't hit the forums, some go into the forums and don't read the articles, some take advantage of both.
Just because you're not interested in the content produced by the editors doesn't mean hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions of people, aren't.
As to your claim that Google flagged us for offensive content and shut down ads is ridiculous, why don't you contact Google and ask for a copy of their standards, and what they do with sites that sites that don't meet their standards with respect to serving up their ads. Then come back and tell me I'm being ridiculous.
I'm not giving you excuses, I'm telling you either what I've experienced personally, or what I'm told. I'm trying to tell you what's happening. It's a wasted effort.
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chad_sux wrote:
Wait, so now google runs this site???
Close. They're on their way to running the internet.
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Pine Apple Slim wrote:
"I'm in charge of producing content".
Never once in my entire time here going back to at least 1997 or 1998 have I ever in the least been interested in of your "content". I have no idea how you get them to pay you for it.
Because the content side of Jive got 5 MILLION HITS in the last full month it was operational. There are videos that have gotten tens of thousands of views, and articles that have are about to break six digits of views. The newsletter has a higher circulation that many music magazines. Pro Reviews get hundreds of thousands of views.
THAT CONTENT IS MOST OF WHAT SUPPORTS THE FORUMS AND LETS YOU BITCH. So, you're welcome.
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