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[Ron Burgandy]

Don't get me wrong, I know the flashes of brilliance you're talking about, but to me that doesn't equate to the legendary player he's been built up to.


I've heard those same flashes of brilliance at local blues jams. Sometimes stuff just falls out of the guitar when you have a killer jam going. :idk:


His playing style is just so unremarkable.

[Mr R Gecko]

Cream era Clapton is awesome. Almost everything that followed is terrible and just so boring.

[chrispsullivan]

clapton was one of the best shows I've ever seen, and at the time he was touring with derek trucks :love:

[Reauchambeau]

in defense of Eric, he would admit he's no guitar virtuoso but he is a great singer, something that rarely gets mentioned about him, Hendrix, SRV etc.
the difference between him and the local yokel blues jam hack is that they can't sing like him and they can't write a song like this. this is where the game ends.
[YOUTUBE]AgSptNx19AI[/YOUTUBE]

[marshallnoise]

The good stuff that Clapton has put out was always heavily assisted by either hard drugs or amazing musicians at his side. His solo stuff just doesn't stand up on it's own.

Hell, most of Cream's stuff wasn't that great either. Couple of absolutely classic amazing rock songs, and a lot of uninspired trash, imo.

Clapton eras:

Yardbirds/Cream/60's stuff - c'mon, he was jamming in the shadows of Page and Beck. Truly awesome, creative players. Cream was just rehashed blues riffs, and psychadelic drugs. Lots of em. Sure, he had awesome tone. He was plugging a '59 Les Paul in to a Bluesbreaker combo. wtfbbq anyone can sound great on a rig like that, playing white man blues.

Coked up period - lots of Duane Allman collabs, and Duane was a superior musician all around.

80's - more coke, less partying... the gravy train is running out, as people stop associating with him. Derek and the Domino's.... have you heard the rest of that album, aside from Layla?? It's terribly boring and... not good.

90's - he's getting over his son's death. Much respect and sympathy for the man, but his songs reeeeeeeeeally dropped off at this point. I feel awful that his son died, especially in the manner it happened, but that doesn't mean I have to like his music from this period.

2000's - old slowhand? More like, posterboy for TGP blues lawyers complete with fake orgasm faces as he bends his e string up a 1/2 step. More sorry white collar, white man blues with no feel to it. Even worse when he got BB King to jam with him.


So... 60's drug addict turned modern lame old man. Don't see the hooplah.

Let it be on record that for once, I agree with you.

[BadRonald]

Please don't even try to defend Eric Clapton. He needs no defense. He's a legend despite what the idiots at HCAF think.:facepalm:

[moonpieface]

i like his earlier stuff and maybe a bit of the mid period, but not much of the later stuff. his playing can be very lyrical when he is on. he ain't no hendrix though :-)

[newholland]

Please don't even try to defend Eric Clapton. He needs no defense. He's a legend despite what the idiots at HCAF think.:facepalm:

they are two separate things.

one can be a legend.

and there is HCAF.

one can become a legend ALSO by being loved by idiots. hulk hogan will be a legend, for instance.

just because hcaf has idiots doesnt mean eric clapton's being a legend wasn't ALSO created by people who were also idiots without association to HCAF, nor does it mean that people at HCAF who don't like him are idiots.

[mbarn3065]

Please don't even try to defend Eric Clapton. He needs no defense. He's a legend despite what the idiots at HCAF think.:facepalm:

This! :thu:

[marshallnoise]

That was awful. :facepalm:

[telephant]

Clapton is the shit. And why has no one mentioned Blind Faith? Late 70's - 80's Clapton was weak. But so was a lot of shit during that time. :lol: I can't stand to listen to Tears in Heaven anymore, but I think the rest of the Unplugged album is awesome. He did some modern contemporary rock stuff after that and I hated it. In fact the only new stuff I really like is the Robert Johnson sessions. Still wish I would have seen him with Bramhal and Trucks.

[Blackie08]

Clapton is the shit. And why has no one mentioned Blind Faith?

Late 70's - 80's Clapton was weak. But so was a lot of shit during that time. :lol:

I can't stand to listen to Tears in Heaven anymore, but I think the rest of the Unplugged album is awesome.

He did some modern contemporary rock stuff after that and I hated it. In fact the only new stuff I really like is the Robert Johnson sessions.

Still wish I would have seen him with Bramhal and Trucks.

I saw him with Doyle and Trucks:thu: Great playing and tone by Eric, but Derek stole the show...

[BadRonald]

they are two separate things.

one can be a legend.

and there is HCAF.

one can become a legend ALSO by being loved by idiots. hulk hogan will be a legend, for instance.

just because hcaf has idiots doesnt mean eric clapton's being a legend wasn't ALSO created by people who were also idiots without association to HCAF, nor does it mean that people at HCAF who don't like him are idiots.

Yeah, ok.:rolleyes:

[rockstrongo]

Layla is one of the most ripping rock tunes ever written, there's so much raw emotion in that song.



I absolutely hate his acoustic version with a passion though. For a song about being in love with your best friend's wife and being torn knowing that writing a song like that is the only way to tell the both of them.....that original version is incredible.

[Blackie08]

Layla is one of the most ripping rock tunes ever written, there's so much raw emotion in that song.



I absolutely hate his acoustic version with a passion though. For a song about being in love with your best friend's wife and being torn knowing that writing a song like that is the only way to tell the both of them.....that original version is incredible.

:thu:

You took the fucking words right outta my mouth dude! I feel the exact same way!

[newholland]

Yeah, ok.:rolleyes:

seriously. its still legit to thing eric clapton is great, but totally not represent any great pinnacle in your personal gallery of greats.

somewhere, there are legions of people thinking the same shit about the insane clown posse. it doesn't make them geniuses, it just mean there's a lot of people who like them.

somebody's gotta be early in line. clapton's statistically one of the early ones- for a white dude playing blues. but i'll certainly take bukka white, son house, blind willie mctell, ol' bob johnson, furry lewis, (insert one million other people) and even the chicago electric types of whom i'm utterly not fond for doing it right and well first. and even those cats weren't FIRST.. they were part of a tradition, and so is eric clapton. he was lucky enough to be english, white, and good at it- and became a superstar. it doesn't eclipse the people whose records he snitched. and his popularity sure doesn't make him better- just a reinterpretation.

doesn't mean he's not great, but popularity sure doesn't indicate genius either in my eyes.

[dparr]

seriously. its still legit to thing eric clapton is great, but totally not represent any great pinnacle in your personal gallery of greats.

somewhere, there are legions of people thinking the same shit about the insane clown posse. it doesn't make them geniuses, it just mean there's a lot of people who like them.

somebody's gotta be early in line. clapton's statistically one of the early ones- for a white dude playing blues. but i'll certainly take bukka white, son house, blind willie mctell, ol' bob johnson, furry lewis, (insert one million other people) and even the chicago electric types of whom i'm utterly not fond for doing it right and well first. and even those cats weren't FIRST.. they were part of a tradition, and so is eric clapton. he was lucky enough to be english, white, and good at it- and became a superstar. it doesn't eclipse the people whose records he snitched. and his popularity sure doesn't make him better- just a reinterpretation.

doesn't mean he's not great, but popularity sure doesn't indicate genius either in my eyes.

No popularity doesn't indicate genius.

But longevity rarely misses the mark.

[newholland]

No popularity doesn't indicate genius.

But longevity rarely misses the mark.

did you read the multitudinous replies that his music from about the late 70's on has TOTALLY missed the mark?

not to say that one can't reinvent ones self.. but record execs of a given age certainly have been known to resurrect dinosaurs and make their own personal jurassic parks... oh, like... all the time...

it's positive. it's recycling in a way.

[co&cafan808]

No popularity doesn't indicate genius.

But longevity rarely misses the mark.

Well said, Clapton is definately a legend wether you like him or not.

[dparr]

did you read the multitudinous replies that his music from about the late 70's on has TOTALLY missed the mark?

not to say that one can't reinvent ones self.. but record execs of a given age certainly have been known to resurrect dinosaurs and make their own personal jurassic parks... oh, like... all the time...

it's positive. it's recycling in a way.

Yes, Clapton's greatest music was with Cream IMO.

But...........if he TOTALLY missed the mark then we would not be talking about him 40 years later would we?