FastRedPonyCar

wat? No, they're well made cabs.. not on par with top of the line cabs but far from mediocre I agree about Avatars though Eh, I think the avatar 4X12's I've heard sound a bit better. I classify avatar as mediocre. Not bad but not good. The marshall MG 412 is bad... real bad.

really? I'll take it and even pay shipping. I love those cabs it's empty if that makes any difference? also, I have no idea how to ship something like that.

they're mediocre.. a slight step up from peavey and on par with marshall. I'd take an avatar contemporary 4X12 over any carvin 4X12. I can't give away my legacy 4X12.. :/