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I get the what you mean now... Semantics i would say... You were refering to faith, while i was to historical, structural whatever. So the bottom line is the different meaning of words, but the concepts behind them are the same and so on... I was afraid you were one of those "only MY church is true, obey it or be doomed" nuts:D

Hm, I'm sorry I really don't get this but am kinda interested in your points and understanding. Now i live in Europe and maybe we understand things a bit diferent here, so I would be grateful if you would explain who has the right to consider themselves Christian and why. Maybe also put it in some kind of historical and theological perspectve, because right now I really don't understand who has the exclusive rights to claim themselves "Christian" or where do those rights come from?! Why are Catholics not Christian? ( I'm not sure you are saying that, if you're not than just ignore this last question...)

Originally posted by Ultrahighgain No...not at all. Now we can get into different definitions and semantics here, but the bottom line IMHO is that those who believe in Christ are Christians. I have yet to hear a Catholic say that he is not Christian. Or a Protestant for that matter or an Orthodox... They all consider themselves Christians.

Originally posted by Ultrahighgain Don't confuse Catholicism with Christianity. I expect you'll say that they're the same, but they are not. What are you getting at? Of course they are not the same but all Catholics are Christians while the opposite isn't true. So its not like these are two totally different things alltogether:confused: