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  • Just a quick add:

    If you dont have a real time analyzer, you are shooting in the dark and are at the mercy of your speakers as well as the acoustics of your room. Having an RTA in your setup is a very quick and easy way to find out what's wrong with your mix, bad peaks stick out like a sore thumb.
    Finding an RTA that has a mic loop in it so that you can test & calibrate your room is beneficial too, this way you can get what's coming out of your speakers and interacting with the room to be as close as possible to what the sound really is.

    Fix AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE with your individual tracks before mixing down. Once they're all mixed together, you're severely limited in what you can do to an individual track - most problems are best fixed in pre. Get them nice and loud - I do my normalizing and compression on the individuals - you barely even need to touch the master if you've taken care of each track properly.

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    • Originally posted by JoeBlast
      Just a quick add:

      If you dont have a real time analyzer, you are shooting in the dark and are at the mercy of your speakers as well as the acoustics of your room. Having an RTA in your setup is a very quick and easy way to find out what's wrong with your mix, bad peaks stick out like a sore thumb.

      Ah - But if you DON'T use a RTA, you're using your ears.

      Relying on a RTA is like using a band-aid for a broken leg.
      John Scrip Massive Mastering
      Chicago (Schaumburg / Hoffman Est.), IL - USA

      MASSIVE Mastering -- johnscrip.com
      And mucking up the Mastering forum at StudioForums.com

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      • Originally posted by MASSIVE Master

        Ah - But if you DON'T use a RTA, you're using your ears.

        Relying on a RTA is like using a band-aid for a broken leg.




        Massive:

        I have noticed there are allot of folks who treat this issue allmost like the creationalism/Evolution debate. Do they half to be mutually exclusive???? Is'nt there room , somehow for both theory's to have merit?? If you stumble on a great sound, why would'nt you use analytical tools to increase your chances of repeating it ??

        What's wrong w/ having some EAR/EYE coordination????

        Can you rely soley on those golden ears????

        Sure , the ears are always going to have the final word, and you don't want to get mesmerized in a RTA read out, But you should'nt be attempting to completely and utterly marginalize what can be a valuable tool, especially to newbies. You know they can learn faster with them, make better decisions in the short term, and then leave them behind.


        I've seen many of your post on the various forums and respect your views and have learned from most of your contributions , that said , that seemed like hasty, ill concieved post.
        Sorry I don't agree with you on this one. maybe next time.

        First kill the goose by refusing to feed it , then blame it for dying and not giving anymore gold eggs


        Professionalism is an attitude and , not a possesion that you own forever once you have acheived something.



        "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

        Albert Einstein


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        • Eh, I'm sticking with it. It wasn't hastily conceived at all.

          RTA's for analyzing rooms, fine. For checking if there's DC problems or VDO whine if monitoring isn't possible, fine.

          But you can take two completely different sounding mixes and run them through RTA's and they'll look very similar. Consequently, you can take two very similar sounding mixes and they'll look completely different.

          RTA's tell the user almost nothing usefull in an everyday situation -

          And as a "learning tool" it makes even less sense - For someone trying to develop their ears, the last thing they should be worried about is how a sound "looks."

          I've relied solely on my ears since long before anyone ever thought of having a RTA on a computer - Actually since long before anyone thought of having a computer capable of running a RTA for that matter.

          There are a few rare occasions (as those above) where they might come in handy - Other than that, they're pretty lights that serve no purpose.
          John Scrip Massive Mastering
          Chicago (Schaumburg / Hoffman Est.), IL - USA

          MASSIVE Mastering -- johnscrip.com
          And mucking up the Mastering forum at StudioForums.com

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          • Yes, immeadiate visual feedback is entirely useless. All of you will also be required to disable any RTA'S and, in addition, the graphic display of your equalizers, compressor reduction meters, transfer plot displays, and master fader meters, ect. , ect.. there all a crutch, and you don't need them; witness the total domination of the audio industry by the blind. they do it all with there ears only. so must you!!
            First kill the goose by refusing to feed it , then blame it for dying and not giving anymore gold eggs


            Professionalism is an attitude and , not a possesion that you own forever once you have acheived something.



            "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

            Albert Einstein


            .

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            • All of you are incapable of ear/eye coordination. turn off all graphic displays, NOW!
              First kill the goose by refusing to feed it , then blame it for dying and not giving anymore gold eggs


              Professionalism is an attitude and , not a possesion that you own forever once you have acheived something.



              "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

              Albert Einstein


              .

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              • Does anyone here have any experience of Precision Mastering in LA? Specifically Tom Baker's work?

                This is in reference to heavy rock ala NIN, Marilyn Manson (both artists he has engineered).
                www.facebook.com/thelostsoulsclub
                www.youtube.com/TheLSCpage
                http://soundcloud.com/the-lost-souls-club

                Selling:
                Selling for CHEAP. Make an offer. I'm based in Winchester:
                Marshall 1922
                Marshall 1922
                Marshall 1960 - Empty uncovered cab.
                Marshall JCM800 Basscab 4x10. No tolex. Took it off and never got round to re-covering.
                Heavily gigged Gibson Les Paul Gothic in hard case. Make an offer.

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                • No Don't Go There Have You Seen The Guys Tash!.
                  I bet he has a little leather waistcoat as well.
                  So whats wrong with Andy Sneeps, Colin Richardson,
                  Christ man were British! If one must go accross the pond then Gridlock Studios Orlando is a least run by
                  people that speak the Queens rather than are!
                  Regards Mark not very PC Fairfax-Harwood.
                  Regards.•:*¨¨*:•. ¸¸.•´¯`•.Mark Fairfax-Harwood, Engineer Springvale Studios
                  http://www.springvalestudios.com

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                  • Hha! But what is his work like in other people's opinion?
                    www.facebook.com/thelostsoulsclub
                    www.youtube.com/TheLSCpage
                    http://soundcloud.com/the-lost-souls-club

                    Selling:
                    Selling for CHEAP. Make an offer. I'm based in Winchester:
                    Marshall 1922
                    Marshall 1922
                    Marshall 1960 - Empty uncovered cab.
                    Marshall JCM800 Basscab 4x10. No tolex. Took it off and never got round to re-covering.
                    Heavily gigged Gibson Les Paul Gothic in hard case. Make an offer.

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                      • Originally posted by joncyberboy
                        Hha! But what is his work like in other people's opinion?

                        Tom is very capable and professional.

                        Even if he's named after one of the old Dr. Who's...
                        John Scrip Massive Mastering
                        Chicago (Schaumburg / Hoffman Est.), IL - USA

                        MASSIVE Mastering -- johnscrip.com
                        And mucking up the Mastering forum at StudioForums.com

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                        • Thanks for the reply. I just got back and i have to say Tom is great. Very personable guy who has done a great job on our album.
                          www.facebook.com/thelostsoulsclub
                          www.youtube.com/TheLSCpage
                          http://soundcloud.com/the-lost-souls-club

                          Selling:
                          Selling for CHEAP. Make an offer. I'm based in Winchester:
                          Marshall 1922
                          Marshall 1922
                          Marshall 1960 - Empty uncovered cab.
                          Marshall JCM800 Basscab 4x10. No tolex. Took it off and never got round to re-covering.
                          Heavily gigged Gibson Les Paul Gothic in hard case. Make an offer.

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                          • I gotta tell ya, it looked like it was written right out of a book.

                            They have great Home Studio Recording books out there...
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                            Korg
                            Casios
                            Gibsons
                            Fenders
                            Tascams
                            Marshalls
                            Roland/Boss
                            Digitech GNX4
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                            • hmmm, why does this rta vs ears remind me of tunning??

                              ear tunning vs the tuner....
                              rkbmusic@hotmail.com
                              Korg
                              Casios
                              Gibsons
                              Fenders
                              Tascams
                              Marshalls
                              Roland/Boss
                              Digitech GNX4
                              http://www.musicyellowpages.com/comp..._c7a2e1cb.html

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