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  • #16
    Bat Out of Hell

    the cd is ****************ing unlistenable

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    • #17
      Originally posted by skunky_funk
      Vinyl can never sound as clear as CDs, likewise, CDs will never sound as organic (and noisy) as vinyl.

      So to claim that the Vinyl mixes sound better for the simple choice of format is preposterous.


      I guess you have not had the pleasure of hearing a clean record on a great table played through a high quality system.

      Vinyl done right can produce at least as much if not more resolution as a CD.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by ShatteredMindofBob
        Bat Out of Hell

        the cd is ****************ing unlistenable


        So was the LP
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        • #19
          Originally posted by JM350


          I guess you have not had the pleasure of hearing a clean record on a great table played through a high quality system.

          Vinyl done right can produce at least as much if not more resolution as a CD.


          And CDs played on right equipment also sound right.

          DJs say vinyl can produce deeper bass notes... so can CDs with a little tweaking. on the EQ and speaker design.

          They say vinyl can produce smoother highs. CDs on the contrary can do the same, with a little digital signal processing.

          The bottomline is there is so much acquired taste in this forum.
          Proud to be an ASH Soul... (Souls of the Amp Simulator Haters Club)... Spread the HATE!

          (But the Axe-FX makes me think about changing my sig.)

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          • #20
            Originally posted by skunky_funk
            The bottomline is there is so much acquired taste in this forum.


            Sure, a lot is personal preferance when you are talking about audio, all I was trying to get across was that vinyl doesn't have to be the noisy lowfi sound most people think of.

            You stated that "Vinyl can never sound as clear as CDs" in my opinion a good record played on a Linn turntable with a $300 Grado has more definition and detail than even a much more expensive CD player.

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            • #21
              for the hundredth time??
              The near pristine sharp edges
              of a vinyl record, is shaved by the diamond stylus of the
              finest cartridge mounted on the finest low-mass head shell
              mounted on the finest tone arm, etc.
              After awhile, the tone degrades. No if's and's or But's. Physics.

              We used to record our LPs on the best HXpro cassette
              one time.
              Then store the LPs in non-static plastic lined sleeves.

              Now what would we do? How about record them onto a CD?
              That way the vinyl record will last much longer. But I guess the cd
              wouldn't be able to capture the LP's much better tone??

              Hey, let's face the facts. The total distortion we hear from most any sound source is in the .001'ths. Yet, No speaker on earth is
              below .1! Or even 1.0! So any great, pure, sound source is fuzzed out to some degree (whether you can detect it or not) mostly through the speakers or headphones or our aging eardrums, much more than the differences between CDs and Vinyl.

              Plus in your listening area, (Car, Livingroom, headphones), you have traffic noise, refridgerater noise, 60 cycle hum, even humming eardrums! If you don't believe me listen closely on the quietest night, and hear the "hopefully" soft noise in your ears.
              Hardly anyone listens to music in a completely soundproof environment. Except soundtechs in professional studios.
              And probably of course, a few expensive automobiles parked
              way out in the country somewhere.

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              • #22
                Yeah, there were quite a few CDs that were remastered
                from late generation duplicate masters, and don't sound
                so hot. The standard CD reissues of the early King Crimson
                albums are an example. What sucks even more is
                all of the great albums that never even made it to CD.

                Now that DVD surround sound is popular, we can expect
                that the record labels will take even further artistic liberties
                when reissuing classic recordings? Is this good or evil?

                Vinyl certainly had it's limitations. Besides dynamic range,
                the record groove is also a spiral, and with each revolution
                of the disc, the circles get smaller and smaller. As you
                approach the center of the disc, the ability to resolve the
                high frequency response begins to suffer. On rock records
                sometimes the songs with the most high frequency energy
                were put on the outside tracks to compensate for this.

                If I really want to get off on vinyl, I have to bust out a 12"
                45 rpm maxi-single disc. I find songs in this format are far
                more satisfying than their LP or CD versions.
                "Consider everything, believe nothing" Elgar.

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