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  • Two questions.

    Alright... I'm a newbie to the whole recording process, but I'm still in HS, so gimme a break. At my school, I've set up my 16 track to the school's Mackie mixer to the computer. All using RCA connections. I've got my 16 track's tape out going into the tape in of the mixer, the tape out of the mixer going into the 16 track, and the aux out going from the mixer to the computer. Will this reduce the sound fidelity? They're just generic RCA cables, nothing special. I need the setup so I can record onto the 16 track using the mixer's pre-amp for condenser mics and also so I can record from the mixer straight onto the computer. It works fine, but I am just wondering if I'm losing any sound quality or if I should buy some really nice RCA cables.

    Question 2:
    Feel Flows by the Beach Boys. We all have heard it and we all love it. The voice effect on Carl's singing... I think I've figured out how they did it, but I'm just checking on here to make sure. I'm thinking they just reversed the track, layed down some reverb, then flipped the track again. Is this right? Just wondering

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  • #2
    "Feel Flows" is a great tune. You've got some good taste.

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    • #3
      If the RCA cables are short and there's nothing creating interference (flourescent lighting, for example), it probably won't matter. The thing about RCA is, it's not shielded, so no matter how nice your cables are, they aren't going to be balanced and shielded, so it probably won't help much. Long unbalanced runs (usually we're talking like 15-20 ft) can cost you some high end, but you're probably good with 3-6 ft.

      I'm trying to think of the song you're talking about. Not registering. Sorry; not big on the beach boys.
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      • #4
        spinman -
        ...The thing about RCA is, it's not shielded, so no matter how nice your cables are, they aren't going to be balanced and shielded, so it probably won't help much.


        Minor correction. RCAs are shielded, but unbalanced. Either way, crappy cables can cause problems but it's more likely to be noticeable on long runs or in electrically noisy environments.

        In short, if you're not hearing issues with the RCA cables then it's probably not worth changing them.

        Can't help on the effects question...

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        • #5
          Let me get this straight; you're in High School and you're discussing Carl Wilson's vocals? This is the kind of thing that restores my faith in mankind!
          Obviously there are an untold number of artists who have been heavily influenced by the Beach Boys,but one you might get a kick out of is "Pale and Precious" by The Dukes of Stratosphear(The XTC alter-ego band).They're so close--it's frightening;check it out if you get the chance.
          Good luck in your recording,and hats off to you for your impeccable taste! Cheers,Steve R.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by multitracker

            Minor correction. RCAs are shielded, but unbalanced.


            Thanks. My bad.
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            • #7
              Hey

              Thanks for the compliments. I've always loved the Beach Boys and even got to see Brian in concert when I was 11. I've tried to get my friends into them, but they just think of "409" and "Surfin Safari" when I mention the Beach Boys. But Pet Sounds, the Holland recordings... GENIUS. If you're serious about music, you'll be seriously into the Beach Boys and specifically Brian and Carl's genius. I love the experimentation. To my knowledge, Feel Flows was the first song to use that effect. And Good Vibrations was pretty much the first successful song with a theremin. I'm really into all kinds of good music, though. Of course I listen to newer stuff. I'm a teenager... I've gotta. But I choose carefully. Elliott Smith(RIP ), Modest Mouse, Jets to Brazil to name a few. Anything that can teach me something about music or the recording process or the human soul is on my list.

              With the RCA's, I've just decided I'm not gonna fret it for now. They're all like 1.5 ft. Also, I'm just working on a solo demo for now. It doesn't need to be crystal quality to submit to a record label. Also, I'm just wrapping up recording a band I play bass for called Matter of Fiction. There's another band called Matter of Fiction that owns the .com, but we legally own the name... we've got some early, mp3s on http://www.songramp.com/homepage.ez?Form.sess_id=392434&Form.sess_key=1029 598506
              And, yes... I've gotten better at mixing since then
              Gimme some feedback sometime!

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              I'm hoping to add an Akai Headrush and a talk box in there if anybody is selling.</div>

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