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    This technique has intrigued me the last days and I have now ordered a Little Labs RedEye Passive DI/ReAmp. Sinse I work alone I find that concentrating on playing and recording a good sound is quite frustrating. My plan is to record my guitar sessions dry first through a DI and then let my computer play them back later on when I concentrate on mic placement and such.

    However I wonder wheter I should amplify the signal after the passive DI (which is supposed to be mic level but with correct impedance) or not. Of course, amplifying will raise the S/N for the AD conversion, but I want the exact level entering my amp from the reamp as my dry guitar had entering the DI. If I preamp then I would have to trim the reamp output later on and I really dont want to concentrate on that.

    So I wonder, what do people do?

    I will be recording the signal balanced with my Creamware Pulsar II through a A16U AD/DA. I will record in 32 bit float/44KHz.
    Gear:

    Modified Ibanez RG7620 w/ Lundgren pup's
    Framus Cobra
    Bogner Uberkab
    ISP Decimator G-string
    Eb-tech Line-level shifter
    Korg DT-10 Instrument tuner

    Music(k):

    http://www.myspace.com/hjarnidaudi - industrial/drone/doom
    http://www.myspace.com/kraanium - brutal slamming grooving death/grind

  • #2
    The signal coming off your recorder is always going to be way hotter than your unamplified guitar signal, and trimming it down with the track fader would be a really bad idea. I presume that's what the "re-amp level" on the Little Labs is for.

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    • #3
      You should be able to run line level from your DAW into the reamp box, and 1/4" instrument out to the amplifier. If you're overloading it, you can attenuate the gain with the Little Labs box.

      Warren
      Warren Dent | Owner | www.ZenProAudio.com

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      • #4
        I am aware of the circuitry involved in the process. My question is whether I should pre-amplify the passive balanced output from the RedEye before the AD conversion or if I should just let it stay at its orignal output level.

        With no additional amplification I wonder whether on playback I will get what I put in (of course, AD/DA conversion will degrade the signal somewhat) after reamping the +4V balanced output from the DA. That is if I use the RedEye for DI and Reamping.

        I want to preserve the original dry guitar tone as much as possible.
        Gear:

        Modified Ibanez RG7620 w/ Lundgren pup's
        Framus Cobra
        Bogner Uberkab
        ISP Decimator G-string
        Eb-tech Line-level shifter
        Korg DT-10 Instrument tuner

        Music(k):

        http://www.myspace.com/hjarnidaudi - industrial/drone/doom
        http://www.myspace.com/kraanium - brutal slamming grooving death/grind

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        • #5
          Originally posted by ragnvald
          With no additional amplification I wonder whether on playback I will get what I put in (of course, AD/DA conversion will degrade the signal somewhat) after reamping the +4V balanced output from the DA. That is if I use the RedEye for DI and Reamping.


          What you are proposing would be like recording a microphone without a mic preamp. It's not possible.

          Thoughtfully, the inventors of the RedEye have included a "re-amp level" control for trimming the signal to your guitar amp.

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          • #6
            So I am better of recording the hotest signal I can and trim it "to death" when reamping? I will just have to experiment.
            Gear:

            Modified Ibanez RG7620 w/ Lundgren pup's
            Framus Cobra
            Bogner Uberkab
            ISP Decimator G-string
            Eb-tech Line-level shifter
            Korg DT-10 Instrument tuner

            Music(k):

            http://www.myspace.com/hjarnidaudi - industrial/drone/doom
            http://www.myspace.com/kraanium - brutal slamming grooving death/grind

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ragnvald
              So I am better of recording the hotest signal I can and trim it "to death" when reamping? I will just have to experiment.


              when I was trying all this out, I found having the "reamp level"
              all the way up got me the best tone. Just sounded more like
              the original signal.

              as for the DI part, I've found that I much prefer active DIs.

              I used an Avalon U5 to record with, then a redeye to reamp
              into my amp and it was so darn close to having plugged my
              guitar straight into my amp.

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              • #8
                Thanks for your answers.

                I will get the redeye next week probably, so I will start to experiment then.
                Gear:

                Modified Ibanez RG7620 w/ Lundgren pup's
                Framus Cobra
                Bogner Uberkab
                ISP Decimator G-string
                Eb-tech Line-level shifter
                Korg DT-10 Instrument tuner

                Music(k):

                http://www.myspace.com/hjarnidaudi - industrial/drone/doom
                http://www.myspace.com/kraanium - brutal slamming grooving death/grind

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