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Does anybody successfully connect "online" with your recording computer?

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  • Does anybody successfully connect "online" with your recording computer?

    Since deciding to dedicate an offline computer to music and recording years ago I haven't had any issues with bugs, viruses, slowdowns, latency, weird noises, etc.



    I recently bought a laptop, and along with my THR10 (guitar interface/desktop amp) use it often for recording ideas and quick arrangements in reaper. All of my instruments and plugins are on my offline recording rig, which is also set up the way I like it. Moving files over by USB thumb drive and making sure everything is where it should be before adding drums for example is a pain and slows down the creative process.



    Having a central network storage locations for Reaper config and wav files, backup files and general sharing would be great. It would also be nice to have access to my music files on my network storage. The disadvantage would be exposing my recording computer to the network, and also to the internet.



    Just curious if anyone has a way to do this. It would be ideal if I could connect to the network but block it from outside.

  • #2
    All of my daws are internet connected.



    The main reason people used to keep their computers off-line (besides the virus thing) was to not take up resources for networking.

    That's gone with modern >1Ghz computers but the old suggestions still hang around.



    EVERY computer needs anti-virus and firewalls on them anyway.

    A lot of viruses are spread by installer cds from legitimate companies (I worked for a company who outsourced their

    software duplication to another country and we almost got sued out of business when customers got viruses from the install cds...)
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    • #3
      I don't have any virus protection on my recording computer, what do you use? I feel like that would be one of the main culprits to slowdowns, and other weird crap.

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      • #4






        Quote Originally Posted by TimOBrien
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        EVERY computer needs anti-virus and firewalls on them anyway.




        Macs are pretty resilient, and I've never had to add a 3rd part anti-virus/firewall.

        Non Macs = Yes
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        • #5
          I have mine connected to the net and to my home network too. I leave it connected while running reaper without an issue. I have an old PC running XP 2.40ghz Pentium 4 with 2gb ram and it runs great with reaper. Pro tools is an entirely different story. You will have no problem if you have something close to that for a PC. I even leave FireFox open while recording, but I have a separate HD that all of my recordings are stored to so your programs run from one HD and your work is stored on a large HD. I do run anti-virus and a firewall as well.
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          • #6
            what AV do you use?

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            • #7
              On my old DAWs I disabled my network cards and deinstalled internet and antivirus.

              I've always used PCI based interfaces and it was a matter of having them on their own

              IRQ's. The network card would rob respurces from the bus so I found the lowest latency with it

              disabled or removed.



              I did have it set up for a home network and could move files over to my Mastering computer

              via the home network where I would master and burn CD's. I also has another computer where

              I could backup files for safety reasons. Once they came out with larger thumb drives, I dumped

              the home network. It was a pain in the ass to begin with. Getting the computers to see each other

              wasnt always automatic and the speed of transfer of large wave files sucked. The thumb drive

              only took a few seconds per song and the network took maybe 5 minuites in comparison.



              Newer computers dont have the same problems with resources my older single core DAWs did.

              My newest DAW doesnt see much benifit from having the card disabled. In fact I run the latest

              version of HarBal and the card needs to be enabled because the program uses the cards Mac Address

              as a liscense key.



              I still dont want the internet and antivirus running all the time because it sucks up memory resources

              If I was running 64 bit then maybe I'd let them boot automatically. With 32 bit the computer only sees/utilizes

              4G no matter how much memory you have installed. Newer DAW programs and plugins need as much of the 4G

              you can give it to run well.



              The way I set mine up was to go into the computers services and set all the internet services to manual (not disabled)

              When I boot up, the internet doesnt connect automatically and therefore doesnt run in the background cnsuming resources,

              and my computer is safe from any attacks. If I click on the internet Icon, it will start the internet up and I can browse normally.

              It takes a little longer to start thye services but they all work.



              I do have the firewall running so I really dont need antivirus for the little browsing of updates I do on that DAW.

              If you feel you want the safety of having it, and you arent browsing unsafe sites, or downloading files, then I suggest

              you set the antivirus for manual and scan the computer as you feel nessasary. There are settings within the antivirus

              for this and there are also antivirus servives that can be set to manual so it doesnt load up in your task tray wanting

              to connect to the internet every time you boot up.



              You can click on the antivirus Icon like you do the internet Icon and only have them run when you go online.

              Otherwise, they are off in manual mode. The only issue you may have is once you turn them on, they will remain

              as though they were set to automatic. The only way to shut them off would be to go in and shut off each service manually

              or reboot. Rebooting would give you back the maximum resources.



              One other option is to set up a dual boot drive. You can have obe drive set up for computer browsing and one for recording only.

              I've used it before and it works fine. Since I have 3 DAWs now and an internet computer that I use for mastering, I have little

              need to run internet on my DAWs. But like I said, theres a few ways to skin the cat.



              If you're interested in setting up services for manual boot, go to the Black Viper site.

              ***One important suggestion is to first print screen shots of your current service settings.

              This is very important if you want to set your computer back to factory settings. Services

              are interconnected. One may seem simple and be only related to one item but its actually

              dependant on many other items. The names and descriptions can be deceiving too.

              They do give you a description of what they do in the admin tools so be sure to read.



              The other item is be sure you only set them for manual, not disabled, and reboot several times and recheck

              the settings. If somethings set for manual, and it shows up running after a reboot, then you know its an

              essential item that must run all the time. You may as well set it back to automatic start to save boot up time.

              Lastly check all your functionality. I had one service I shut off that looked like an internet item and was actually

              needed to run my defrag program.



              There are a few items you definately want disabled. Anything that lets your computer be accessed remotely

              is normally defaulted to disabled, but program installs can open these services and make you verunable to

              attacks. Be sure those kinds of ports are closed.



              As far as the type of antivirus you use, Ive used bith McCaffer and Norton for decades without a problem.

              Right now I get Norton for free with my internet provider so Its what I been running.

              Its got some cleanup tools which are handy and it does work to block virus attacks. I'm not too hep on

              the free antivirus programs. There are some that suck a huge amount of resources. I believe my buddy had

              AVG on his laptop. Every time he booted the thing tried to go online and check his updates and it also did a full scan.

              It was a major pain in the ass when installing programs no less booting normally and coming to ready.



              Heres a review on the top sellers.

              http://anti-virus-software-review.toptenreviews.com/

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              • #8
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                • #9
                  I have not connected my DAW to the internet since I started using them (2002), unless it was necessary to license something or download an update.



                  I disable the network card, and there is no physical connection.



                  For my needs, keeping the internet at arms length, and making a physical transfer a necessity has both enabled me to concentrate (can't surf) and make sure I was really ready to send something out (have to go through bother of copying to media etc).



                  As WRGJMC says, it is quite possible to run a DAW successfully and be on the internet; it will involve more sorting out and a larger risk of something going kerflooey, as well as keeping your concentration on doing DAW work and not posting on forums, checking email or watching youtube videos.



                  Not putting it on the network suits my needs, but I realize not everyone can isolate a machine or will even want to.



                  If you want to limit communications, you can disable DNS and only add the local hosts to your hosts file on your DAW; then your DAW can write to local network but not surf.

                  This is kind of a happy medium, if you ware looking to bring files in and out a lot.

                  Cheers and good luck.

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                  • #10
                    My Mac DAW is connected (when I choose, not all the time). It's very useful for downloading software updates and for copy protection. I've never had a single virus in the 15 years I've been using Macs.

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                    • #11
                      Another user of a mac that is connected at all times. The router firewall is sufficient.
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                      • #12
                        I run Comcast/Xfinity for an internet provider which really sucks balls in my area.

                        I really wouldnt want to be on line with them as a provider on my DAW because

                        of all the slowdowns and outages I get. Peviously I had AT&T which was highly stable

                        and will likely go back to using them when my contract is up. Mid day Xfinity

                        has allot of outages due to traffic and I just dont need the trouble on my DAW

                        when I'm doing recording work.



                        A good way to test how much memory is being consumed is to open up your task manager

                        by hitting Ctl - Alt - Del while running your daw program and or your internet program.

                        Then select then check your processes tab. Its shows how much memory each application is using.



                        Heres an example of mine while I'm on the net.





                        This isnt a DAW so I dint have my interface or Sonar running, but it shows how the

                        internet and its support programs are the biggest memory hogs.



                        As I said this may not be an issue till your have a large audio project running

                        with a bunch or plugins running and you begin to run low on resources. All you

                        need is to have the internet connection decide its time for an update while you're

                        trying to do a mix and it can cause the program to crash. I often run allot of resources on

                        my projectsw and know I can get away with using 90% CPU resources in Sonar safely.

                        If I get resource spikes, I may as well play taps on my curret work session.

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                        • #13
                          YES. Just get the free version of AVAST, Malwarebytes, and keep windows up to date. You shouldn't have any problems. Just make sure to back up your system image and files not just because of viruses, but because of the inevitable hard drive crash.
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                          • #14
                            I've been using a 2007 Macbook with OSx Tiger, and recording into Garage Band. I just click on share, and send it to iTunes, then you can create an MP3 of it as well, which I shoot over to Soundcloud. It's a real breeze. I'm hoping it will be just as easy with Logic 9, now that I have it installed.

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