Harmony Central Forums
No announcement yet.

Trouble with Ableton 8 and lexicon omega Noob content


  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Trouble with Ableton 8 and lexicon omega Noob content

    This is the first time i've tried to record with this setup (just got a bunch of hand-me-down hardware/software). I programmed the drums in ableton and now i'm trying to record a guitar track. I can hear my guitar just fine and there are no issues as i'm playing along with the track. So i arm the track to record but then a second, echoing guitar sound seems to appear from nowhere and is delayed from my original guitar input. When i turn my lexicon omega's monitor mix knob all the way to the left, I hear my guitar which is not delayed, but when i turn it all the way to the right, i hear only my guitar delayed... when its in the middle, its a mix of the two and sounds messed up. When i actually record guitar, it records in time, but when I play it back, it is slightly behind

    I went and adjusted the driver error comensation setting in ableton like the help menu suggested and no fix. Any ideas?
    G&L Legacy
    Ibanez RGA-121

    My music



  • #2
    What you're hearing is the processed signal and the computers latency.

    Most interfaces these days have zero or near zero latency monitoring.

    Be sure your interface is set for zero latency. Some have a knob to adjust this,

    some have a virtual mixer setting in the driver settings.

    The other item is your DAW settings. Something like Cubase requires you to turn

    the track volumes down on the DAW mixer of your new tracks. Otherwise you hear

    both the live and processed guitar at the same time. Thats one thing I found a pain in the

    ass using Cubase.

    Other DAW programs like Sonar have a buttion that gets pushed to hear the processed guitar

    at the same time as the live guitar. The buttons allow you to run the signal through effects

    before they are recorded. I only use it when I want to use the guitar tuner plugin which works well in Sonar.

    The other reason for using it would be to run the guitar through guitar processors like Guitar rig and get your

    amp sound from an effect. Your computer has to be capible or running very low latency in order to do this.

    A good quad core with plenty of memory might get you down below 10us which isnt too annoying.

    I cant get my current dawbelow 80us which I can hear.

    iceYou may be able to tweak the computers latency settings but it comes at a price.

    Some will cause dropouts and stop recording in the middle of a song and others might

    produce digital crackle. When the buffers are set too low, the data does get recorded and the gaps

    in recorded data wind up being digital spikes. Most DAW programs have a built in optimization test.

    It usually runs when you set up the program and selects the optimal buffer and latency settings based on

    your hardware so the program will run best. Overriding the settings to try and get lower latency usually fails.

    I havent used ableton 8 much but I'm guessing it might be like Cubase and its just a matter of turning the track

    volumes completely down on the tracks armed to record. That should kill the feedback loop being created where

    you hear the live and processed signal at the same time. Each daw is a little different so you may need to go into the

    DAW manual and read up on direct/processed monitoring settings. Maybe it needs a track button toggled like sonar.

    If that doesnt work, be sure to check your interface manual. There may be a knob or driver setting that pans between

    direct and processed signals. You only want to hear the direct signal tracking. If you play along to an echo, it will cause

    track alignment issues and all your music will be out of time multitracking.