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    I wouldn't mind for you folks doing a review on the new Epiphone Master-built Century Collection. Especially that Delux Classic or the Zenith.

    Henry, Jim and Craig should send you a few for a full evaluation. They look cool. I have a Godin 5th Ave with a Godin P90 in it. The new Epiphones look similar, but should sound very different.

    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/ETD2VNNH

    There's hardshell cases available too
    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/DELCS










    Thanks in advance.

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    I wouldn't mind seeing a review either. Just from looking I'm put off by the location of the second strap button. It will make the guitar poorly balanced.
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    • #3
      Isn't Phil a bass player?

      I don't know. Epiphone was always the red-headed step son of the Gibson line of (already) marginal acoustic guitars. I have zero curiosity about the entire line. The so-called Masterbilt line was anything but. First run new guitars were sporting cracked tops in the stores. What was that all about? Once bitten, twice shy...Gibson had all the time in the world to ensure that Masterbilt line was a quality product but it didn't. It died a slow death due to issues, that could have been prevented, that sabotaged what could have been a decent market share. I'm not even curious about this latest attempt to recapture it.

      I see it as yet another one of Hanks' pranks.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by Idunno View Post
        Isn't Phil a bass player? . . .
        AFAIK, Phil plays various instruments including bass but he's not primarily a bassist. You're certainly entitled to your opinion of Epiphones but some of us would prefer to wait and see.
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Idunno View Post
          Isn't Phil a bass player?
          Actually, I started playing guitar before I started playing bass... and sax before I started playing guitar... and clarinet before I started playing sax...

          I play several different instruments. None of them spectacularly, but to quote Garth from Wayne's World, "I like to play."

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          • #6
            For anyone interested in reading the press release, I put it up in HC News a few days ago - here's the link with all the details about the Epiphone Masterbilt Century models...

            http://www.harmonycentral.com/news/e...ntury-archtops

            I'll make a couple of phone calls today and see what I can arrange. Thanks for letting me know what you're interested in seeing me review - I find that very helpful, so please don't hesitate to make suggestions in the future folks!
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            • #7
              PS Did you want me to check out the Zenith or the Zenith Classic? I noticed you mentioned the De Luxe Classic, which is the f-hole model - did you want me to check out the f-hole Zenith or the round-hole version?
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              "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post
                PS Did you want me to check out the Zenith or the Zenith Classic? I noticed you mentioned the De Luxe Classic, which is the f-hole model - did you want me to check out the f-hole Zenith or the round-hole version?
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post
                  PS Did you want me to check out the Zenith or the Zenith Classic? I noticed you mentioned the De Luxe Classic, which is the f-hole model - did you want me to check out the f-hole Zenith or the round-hole version?
                  Hey Phil - could you ask them about doing tenor versions? The old Epiphone archtop tenors are some of the best made and quite coveted in tenor circles.

                  http://www.tenorguitar.com/images/ph...enith_1944.jpg

                  http://www.tenorguitar.com/epiphone.html
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Verne Andru View Post

                    Hey Phil - could you ask them about doing tenor versions? The old Epiphone archtop tenors are some of the best made and quite coveted in tenor circles.

                    http://www.tenorguitar.com/images/ph...enith_1944.jpg

                    http://www.tenorguitar.com/epiphone.html

                    I can ask / make the suggestion, but I don't know if it will make any difference or not. I can see the archtops having mass appeal, but I'm not sure if tenors would get the same amount of love from modern guitarists.

                    I'm out of the loop, so forgive me asking, but just how big is the tenor scene?
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                    "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Phil O'Keefe View Post


                      I can ask / make the suggestion, but I don't know if it will make any difference or not. I can see the archtops having mass appeal, but I'm not sure if tenors would get the same amount of love from modern guitarists.

                      I'm out of the loop, so forgive me asking, but just how big is the tenor scene?
                      Tenors are making a bit of a come-back as of late - there's a sub-forum dedicated to them over at Mandolin Cafe [http://www.mandolincafe.com]. They're cool because they're tuned in 5th's, like violin, cello, mandola, etc. You get tones out of them that are impossible on a regular guitar

                      The generally accepted scale-length is 23" but some are 21". I prefer the shorter scale, but there aren't that many around. Kala is making a 21" tenor guitar, but that's about it for production models.

                      Tenor guitars were created as a transition instrument from tenor banjo. They were usually archtop bodies with smaller necks but evolved into flattops by people such as Martin. Gibson make a number of archtops and Gretch was also big in the tenor game when it was active.

                      More recently, Eastwood has been putting quite a bit into the tenor side with these three models:


                      http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/warre...2p-dlx-cherry/


                      http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/astro...nor-dlx-white/



                      http://www.eastwoodguitars.com/classic-tenor-walnut/

                      Ibanez has a couple acoustics as does Blueridge:




                      Then you're into expensive Collings and custom builds.

                      Nobody is doing a production archtop these days. It would be cool if The Loar did one ala the early Gibson and even cooler if Epiphone offered up some of their classics. These will never hit the large volumes of a Les Paul or a Strat, but they have their place.
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                      • #12
                        Thanks for the very informative post Verne!
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                        "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."

                        - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                        "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

                        - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter

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                        • Phil O'Keefe
                          Phil O'Keefe commented
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                          Hey Daddymack, I've already reviewed the Masterbilt Century De Luxe Classic (the top of the line f-hole model) but maybe we can try to get them to set you up with a loaner of either the Zenith (mid-sized) or the Olympic to check out?

                        • daddymack
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                          At their discretion...just let me know!

                        • Phil O'Keefe
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                          I'm working on it. I'll shoot you a PM soon.

                      • #13
                        Well, as I said to Daddymack, the Epiphone Masterbilt Century De Luxe Classic review is finished, as requested. Here's where you can check it out:

                        http://www.harmonycentral.com/expert...e-luxe-classic

                        Please let me know if you have any questions folks!
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                        - George Carlin

                        "It shouldn't be expected that people are necessarily doing what they appear to be doing on records."

                        - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                        "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

                        - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter

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                        • #14


                          Nice.

                          Thanks a bunch. I'm gonna check it out for real down the road.

                          I have a Godin 5th Ave already, and I was actually thinking about buying a Godin 5th King Pin.


                          The De Luxe Classic looks pretty cool, and so e does there Century 66, which is more like my Godin 5th Ave.
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                          • #15
                            Let me know what you think Mikeo, and if you have any questions about the review, feel free to shout out.
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                            - George Carlin

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                            - Sir George Martin, All You Need Is Ears

                            "The music business will be revitalized by musicians, not the labels or Live Nation. When the musicians decide to put music first, instead of money, the public will flock to the fruits and the scene will be healthy again."

                            - Bob Lefsetz, The Lefsetz Letter

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