Members Tacenda Posted April 30, 2016 Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 Which one is better I'm deciding between the fender CD-140s with the 140s all mahogany version . And is it better then the cd 60? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted April 30, 2016 Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 Both the CD-140S and CD-140SM have solid tops but the wood is obviously different. The CD-60 has a laminated top in either version. Your best bet is to play both the CD-140S and CD-140SM and decide which sounds best to you. If possible, have someone play both while you listen. Some people find mahogany topped guitars to be less versatile than spruce topped ones but ultimately it's your ears, your fingers, and your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted April 30, 2016 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 I heard solid top gets better overtime does mahogany do the same too . And what do you think bout the SCE version is it any better than the S ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted April 30, 2016 Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 Yes, a solid top is supposed to sound better with age, especially a spruce top. Honestly, I don't know how much a mahogany top is supposed to improve. Personally, you couldn't prove it by me in either case. As for the SCE version, most acoustic players don't need a cutaway and some of us don't like guitars with holes cut in their sides because it's hard to find a preamp that fits exactly if that one goes bad. You'll spend an extra $100 for stuff you may not even need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted April 30, 2016 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 So overall the solid spruce is better than the mahogany ? And will a solid spruce top and laminated mahogany effect anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted April 30, 2016 Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 Not necessarily "better" just different. You may find that you like the sound of a mahogany top. Martin sells a lot of 15 Series guitars and they all have solid mahogany tops. Here's a D15 for reference:[ATTACH=CONFIG]n31730589[/ATTACH]Of course, they also cost less than most of Martin's other models. A solid spruce top and laminated back and sides is a fairly common and popular combination. You can find a number of good sounding guitars with that combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted April 30, 2016 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 Which tanglewood acoustic guitar will you recommend me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey Maguire Posted April 30, 2016 Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 Solid mahogany produces a deeper, warmer tone than Sitka spruce. The spruce top will warm a bit with age, but, it is much brighter than the mahogany top will be. Cedar tops warm a lot with age, but, often, they are as bright as new spruce tops when first manufactured. Cedar is softer wood and will sound wonderful to most people's ears the older they get. They are also not as loud as spruce tops. Maple tops are bright and loud. They are not likely to soften in tone with age. Koa is punchy and loud. It can be bright, like spruce, or very soft and muted. That depends on how much curl it has. The curlier the wood, the more mellow. For the best punch and volume, straight grained tops are better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted April 30, 2016 Author Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 Do you guys know anything bout the fender pm-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey Maguire Posted April 30, 2016 Members Share Posted April 30, 2016 I played a Paramount (PM1) this past Thursday evening. It was not bad over all, but, it is over-priced. The guitar is made better than the rest of Fender's current line of acoustics, but, it is still being produced in China. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted May 1, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 Would you choose the pm-1 or the fender cd 140s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sdelsolray Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 Which one is better I'm deciding between the fender CD-140s with the 140s all mahogany version . And is it better then the cd 60? Dunno which is "better". I've owned numerous spruce top guitars and a few mahogany top guitars, and have played many others. They are rather different from each other, at least in the narrow and limited acoustic guitar world. I enjoy both, but each has attributes, behaviors and sonics that the other doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted May 1, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 I heard a solid spruce can play like a mahogany but a mahogany can't play Like a solid spruce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey Maguire Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 I would pic the Paramount over anything else in the Fender line, but, at that price, you could get a low-end Martin or a Taylor. There are lots of better guitars under the price of the Paramount series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted May 1, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 What are the guitar and Martins you mentioned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katopp Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 Lots of fuzz here.Main differentiator is not the wood, but the build. As in top thickness and bracing stiffness.Different woods have different stiffness and strength with Spruce rating top and Hog rating low. Cedar, Koa and Maple somwehere in between. So a Hog top - all things being equal - has to be thicker/heavier than a Spruce top. Other differentiators are the speed of sound propagation in the material and the frequency related dampening, but there you approach voodoo territory. In general: if it sounds good to you, it is good. There is no "better" as a Martin is not better than a Squier or Epiphone if you do not like the way it plays and sounds. If you like it, it is good for you. You have to play it, not me or the guy around the block. Only your opinion counts in terms of "better or worse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitarcapo Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 Mahogany has a stronger fundamental with less overtones and complexity to the note. As such, the sound cuts through in a mix with other instruments and projects better. The sound is more raw and less pretty and bell-like....so it lends itself to blues and rock more. Spruce is a brighter prettier sound that fills in the sound more. Probably better for acoustic work for stuff like Celtic and folk. I would think mahogany would be better for recording with a group and spruce would be better for work as a solo artist. But these are all generalizations. As for cedar....Ibthink it sound like old spruce but it doesn't age much after.... The sound you get new stays the same. And cedar probably doesn't "last" as long. Yes. Some guitars lose tone over time....sort of play themselves out and lose the high end as they age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted May 1, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 Does mahogany sound better after aged ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members katopp Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 All things equal, Hog sounds like Hog, Spruce like Spruce and Cedar like Cedar. There are differences, but they are minute. To the uninitiated, Spruce sounds like a guitar, Cedar and Koa, too. There is a bigger difference in sound in regards to the strings that you use than in regards to the wood.Better is subjective, too. Changes in sound in terms of "ageing" or "playing in" happen, but they happen over a long period of time. Think in decades rather than weeks.Cedar will last only about 100 years, whereas Spruce might last 150 years. If that is of any concern to you, then you may chose Spruce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted May 1, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 If you wil would you choose the Fender cd140s or the fender Tim Armstrong hellcat ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey Maguire Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 The new "working musician series" Martin guitars http://www.guitarcenter.com/Martin/Road-Series-2016-DRS1-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey Maguire Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 DRS2 also http://www.guitarcenter.com/Martin/Road-Series-2015-DRS2-Dreadnought-Acoustic-Electric-Guitar.gc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mickey Maguire Posted May 1, 2016 Members Share Posted May 1, 2016 The two Fender guitars you mention here are low-cost and quality is very inconsistent. The Hellcat is $299 on the street almost anywhere. They are way below the quality of the Paramount series. Paramount's biggest problem is that they are over-priced. If you want a good inexpensive guitar, take a good look at the Breedlove Discovery Dreadnought guitar... $279 to $300 depending on where you buy. They are worth every penny. They are made in Indonesia, but the setups are done in the US factory at Bend, Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted May 2, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 2, 2016 So is either the paramount or the Breedlove discovery . How bout ibanez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tacenda Posted May 2, 2016 Author Members Share Posted May 2, 2016 Can you recommend me some with built in tuners please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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