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Clique? You under Neal's spell? Custodians, we are, until such time as someone comes along and restores the place back to its former greatness. All the special people will step out from behind the very edge of the shadows where they currently peer from, their noses darting in and out of the light giving their positions away, and it will be the giddy mass of acoustic topic flogging members it used to be, or never was, I forget now.

 

I guess I could have just responded with "Here!".

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Clique? You under Neal's spell? Custodians, we are, until such time as someone comes along and restores the place back to its former greatness. All the special people will step out from behind the very edge of the shadows where they currently peer from, their noses darting in and out of the light giving their positions away, and it will be the giddy mass of acoustic topic flogging members it used to be, or never was, I forget now.

 

I guess I could have just responded with "Here!".

 

Oh there's a clique ... and Neal's one of us

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I was black-balled from the clique, but I'm here anyway.

 

I won't belong to any clique from which a great and noble soul such as FF was black-balled.

 

William Holden, 'The Wild Bunch':

 

"We're not gonna get rid of anybody. We're gonna stick together, just like it used to be. When you side with a man, you stay with him. And if you can't do that, you're like some animal - you're finished! We're finished! All of us!"

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I made an attempt to keep the line over there someplace above flat but I'm an off-topic kind of poster. So, I stayed in that area of the forum with nonsense posts about personal subject matter just to keep the blood going. I wasn't alone in that effort but I think for a while I can claim the lions share of the effort. It seems whenever I stopped, the forum stopped. I gave up. I can see how the lack of posts can disinterest visitors but the ones who want the place to exist need to make an effort. On the flip side, all the members there have no need of knowledge about acoustic guitars. They're seasoned players and otherwise not much for idle chit-chat.

 

Here, the seasoned patronage isn't coining new questions about guitars, others have moved on because that's what people do, yet there's flak about staying on topic. Can't have it both ways. You want the ebb and flow of threads and posts, make an effort. Count me out of the mainstream interest in guitar discussion but I'll be there for talk about playing the thing with chit-chat in between on-topic stuff.

 

The health of the on-topic content of this place is dependent upon the people who want to attract new, like-minded people. That's where vbadmin was coming from. But, you can't legislate a forum into popularity. That comes from the soul of its core members. Like Neal points out in his post whining about people whining, what used to keep this place alive (core membership) has moved on and for the life of me I don't see the logic in placing blame anywhere for it.

 

If this place went strictly on-topic you'd have what MelodyVine became in short order. There's no one to blame for that, which infuriates people who need to place blame somewhere, because members naturally disenfranchise themselves over time and go away. Those who take exception to a member having an opinion in a subjective-based forum usually take their own tailspin exits. Good riddance.

 

Remember, when this and other forums first came on the scene there were thousands of players and curiosity seekers (mostly the latter) without a platform to discuss the acoustic guitar online. When HCAG debuted it garnered a huge membership. People talked guitars and other stuff in a barrage of threads that didn't stay on the page for one day and usually much less. Then attrition from natural causes began whittling that kind of patronage down to a few cliques who flamed each other with almost a palpable heartbeat, when not distracted into fake solidarity to throw stones at HC's front office for yet another disruptive goof. That's the chronology of facts describing the then-thru-now existence of this place.

 

The clique, as Neal conveniently calls it, isn't a clique at all but rather the maintenance people left behind keeping the systems working and reporting upwards to the head office about crap that doesn't work. You want membership? Make like you care about it. You want it strictly on-topic, dream on.

 

 

This is a good assessment IMO ...and actually I was just curious about how many maintenance people are left here.

 

 

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They're out there on our doorstep in significant numbers but can't be bothered. I think this site has seen the last of the curiosity and novelty it once enjoyed. We are to online discussion boards as fixed stores are to the retail world - old news. It burst onto the scene and then slowly fizzled out.

 

People don't stagnate very long.

 

Entertainment having jumped extraordinarily in the last few years, this site has seen itself play a brief part in it. I anticipate movies opting for impeccably rendered CG human substitution and actors becoming the obsolete component of visual entertainment. Musically, the studio knob turners are substituting digitized music for musicians. That much is evident in the spirited research and promotion of such counterfeiting from people who contribute to this site like Anderton and others.

 

People copping a plea for digital smoke and mirrors send mixed messages to musicians striving for prowess on their chosen instruments. That always makes me wonder where this site's echelon is placing its priorities. I fail to see having it both ways being a legitimate argument. Gear heads do not necessarily the geniuses make and that's the top-down make up of this place as perceived from the bottom up.

 

But, remembering the primary site purpose is to support the mother ship's sales efforts, the wrecking crew at the top brings the goods. This place wasn't the local watering hole like we now tend to defend it as. But, it is dying a natural death regardless of the software changes and glitches we tend to blame it on. Now that it's fallen to the current level management incorrectly thinks it can return to those halcyon days of popularity. Right.

 

Second star on the right and straight on 'til morning.

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