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    I have been playing guitar for 32 years. I am Jazz trained, but have played progressive metal more than anything else. Well, life these days keeps me from having the time to play in a band, but I have found great satisfaction in writing music and recording it. Suprisingly though I have been writing neither jazz nor metal, but rather country music. I wont go into how I got interested in country, but will just say I am having so much fun. Only oneb problem, my Ibanez Joe Pass model archtop is no flattop when recorded, hence my post. I need a real nice acoustic for recording. I will be doing lots of strumming, fingerwork, and flatpicking solo work as well. I know that there is no acoustic that can do all perfectly but if it could do real well with all, I would be happy. I have played many different guitars but the choices are becoming overwhelming. I love how the Taylors play and how Martins sound. Recently played one of the martin performing artist series and it played and sounded great. Breedlove is definitely noy for me. I went to a high bend shop here in Pittsburgh (Acoustic Music Works) and got an arrogant attitude thrown at me rather than useful information. Played several collings guitars there and was +/- impressed. I know there are so many great guitars I just don't want to jump at the first thing that strikes my fancy. I need a bit of help with wood choices etc as well. Byb the way I would like to top out at $2500, but if the perfect guitar is more I will splurge. Lastly, the guitar will be used 99% of the time for recording. Thanks for any help you can give me as I feel very lost in the acoustic neighborhood.
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    1985 MIJ Fender Strat (PRS Dragon pickup/ Kahler Spyder trem, GK-2A midi pickup<br />
    1982 Ibanez Joe Pass (JP20)<br />
    2000 Carvin 727<br />
    1978 Epiphone SG 550<br />
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    Bogner Shiva/Mills Acoustic 4x12 cab<br />
    1978 Fender Deluxe Reverb<br />
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    Digitech GSP 2101,<br />
    Roland GR-1 guitar synth<br />
    Roland VG-88<br />
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    Other assorted items</div>

  • #2
    If I had $2500 for a guitar and was a jazz player,I'd pick up a good maybe used Taylor T-5,or any other high end Taylor for that price.
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    • #3
      Wow, with that budget you're gonna be able to afford a greaaat guitar!!
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      • #4
        If you've got that coin to spend, go and try out a bunch until you find the one that sounds and feels right to you. Then see where you can get the best deal on it.
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        • #5
          If I had $2500 for a guitar and was a jazz player,I'd pick up a good maybe used Taylor T-5,or any other high end Taylor for that price.


          If using it for Jazz yes indeed, but I will be using it for country music writing and recording. I really like how the Taylors play, but they just don't sound full enough to me (at least the ones I've played.
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          1985 MIJ Fender Strat (PRS Dragon pickup/ Kahler Spyder trem, GK-2A midi pickup<br />
          1982 Ibanez Joe Pass (JP20)<br />
          2000 Carvin 727<br />
          1978 Epiphone SG 550<br />
          <br />
          Bogner Shiva/Mills Acoustic 4x12 cab<br />
          1978 Fender Deluxe Reverb<br />
          <br />
          Digitech GSP 2101,<br />
          Roland GR-1 guitar synth<br />
          Roland VG-88<br />
          <br />
          Other assorted items</div>

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          • #6
            If I had $2500 for a guitar and was a jazz player,I'd pick up a good maybe used Taylor T-5,or any other high end Taylor for that price.


            If using it for Jazz yes indeed, but I will be using it for country music writing and recording. I really like how the Taylors play, but they just don't sound full enough to me (at least the ones I've played (at least for country).
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            1985 MIJ Fender Strat (PRS Dragon pickup/ Kahler Spyder trem, GK-2A midi pickup<br />
            1982 Ibanez Joe Pass (JP20)<br />
            2000 Carvin 727<br />
            1978 Epiphone SG 550<br />
            <br />
            Bogner Shiva/Mills Acoustic 4x12 cab<br />
            1978 Fender Deluxe Reverb<br />
            <br />
            Digitech GSP 2101,<br />
            Roland GR-1 guitar synth<br />
            Roland VG-88<br />
            <br />
            Other assorted items</div>

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            • #7
              You want to play country music? Simple, you need a Martin D-28 or D-18.

              You can thank me later.
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              • #8
                You want to play country music? Simple, you need a Martin D-28 or D-18.

                You can thank me later.


                Yep! Either one of those will do it!
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                • #9
                  You want to play country music? Simple, you need a Martin D-28 or D-18.

                  You can thank me later.


                  I'm sure you're right, and I do love that Martin sound, but bein so unknowlegable about acoustics, I find myself a bit intimidated. I can go into a music store with an electric and pick out the right guitar and amp with total confidence, but this acoustic venture is stressing me out.
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                  <br />
                  1985 MIJ Fender Strat (PRS Dragon pickup/ Kahler Spyder trem, GK-2A midi pickup<br />
                  1982 Ibanez Joe Pass (JP20)<br />
                  2000 Carvin 727<br />
                  1978 Epiphone SG 550<br />
                  <br />
                  Bogner Shiva/Mills Acoustic 4x12 cab<br />
                  1978 Fender Deluxe Reverb<br />
                  <br />
                  Digitech GSP 2101,<br />
                  Roland GR-1 guitar synth<br />
                  Roland VG-88<br />
                  <br />
                  Other assorted items</div>

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                  • #10
                    You want to play country music? Simple, you need a Martin D-28 or D-18.

                    You can thank me later.



                    yep or an alternative could be a Gibson J45.

                    Buy the Martin new and they well guarantee it for ever. That warranty is worth it's weight in gold. Many Martins will need as neck rest over time and it pretty nice to know that the guitar you bought in 2010, if it ever does need work Martin covers it 100%.

                    I have used the warranty before for a neck reset and the local authorize luthier did the work, plus Martin covered the cost of a new bridge and saddle.

                    I bought an MC 28 in 1989 and 15 years later in needed work. That work cost Martin probably 500 bucks and me not a dime, the guitar cost me 1300 buck new in 89.


                    I have since had about 7 of the money maker frest repalced.

                    I love my J45 and it seems to be holding up well.



                    I have since purchased 2 more Martins.


                    I do like my J45 too

                    This is just something to keep in mind.

                    I'm not a huge fan of Taylor stuff, but it sounds nice right out of the box.


                    Play as many good acoustics as you can and see what speaks to you.
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                    • #11
                      Also, looking at the Martin price guide, it seems there are a multitude of D 18 and D 28 guitars of all different prices and woods (woe is me).
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                      <br />
                      1985 MIJ Fender Strat (PRS Dragon pickup/ Kahler Spyder trem, GK-2A midi pickup<br />
                      1982 Ibanez Joe Pass (JP20)<br />
                      2000 Carvin 727<br />
                      1978 Epiphone SG 550<br />
                      <br />
                      Bogner Shiva/Mills Acoustic 4x12 cab<br />
                      1978 Fender Deluxe Reverb<br />
                      <br />
                      Digitech GSP 2101,<br />
                      Roland GR-1 guitar synth<br />
                      Roland VG-88<br />
                      <br />
                      Other assorted items</div>

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                      • #12
                        yep or an alternative could be a Gibson J45.

                        Buy the Martin new and they well guarantee it for ever. That warranty is worth it's weight in gold. Many Martins will need as neck rest over time and it pretty nice to know that the guitar you bought in 2010, if it ever does need work Martin covers it 100%.

                        I have used the warranty before for a neck reset and the local authorize luthier did the work, plus Martin covered the cost of a new bridge and saddle.

                        I bought an MC 28 in 1989 and 15 years later in needed work. That work cost Martin probably 500 bucks and me not a dime, the guitar cost me 1300 buck new in 89.


                        I have since had about 7 of the money maker frest repalced.

                        I love my J45 and it seems to be holding up well.



                        I have since purchased 2 more Martins.


                        I do like my J45 too

                        This is just something to keep in mind.

                        I'm not a huge fan of Taylor stuff, but it sounds nice right out of the box.


                        Play as many good acoustics as you can and see what speaks to you.


                        Such great advice,but I feel like I need about 10 years to figure it out, and I want it for Christmas.
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                        <br />
                        1985 MIJ Fender Strat (PRS Dragon pickup/ Kahler Spyder trem, GK-2A midi pickup<br />
                        1982 Ibanez Joe Pass (JP20)<br />
                        2000 Carvin 727<br />
                        1978 Epiphone SG 550<br />
                        <br />
                        Bogner Shiva/Mills Acoustic 4x12 cab<br />
                        1978 Fender Deluxe Reverb<br />
                        <br />
                        Digitech GSP 2101,<br />
                        Roland GR-1 guitar synth<br />
                        Roland VG-88<br />
                        <br />
                        Other assorted items</div>

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                        • #13
                          Has anyone here tried the Martin Performing Artist Series? I realize their claim to fame is their plugged in sound, but they sound good acoustically to me, and play beautifully (for an electric player at least). How does their sound compare to a D 18 or 28 whe heard by an ear accustomed to listening to the nuances of acoustic guitars.
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                          <br />
                          1985 MIJ Fender Strat (PRS Dragon pickup/ Kahler Spyder trem, GK-2A midi pickup<br />
                          1982 Ibanez Joe Pass (JP20)<br />
                          2000 Carvin 727<br />
                          1978 Epiphone SG 550<br />
                          <br />
                          Bogner Shiva/Mills Acoustic 4x12 cab<br />
                          1978 Fender Deluxe Reverb<br />
                          <br />
                          Digitech GSP 2101,<br />
                          Roland GR-1 guitar synth<br />
                          Roland VG-88<br />
                          <br />
                          Other assorted items</div>

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                          • #14
                            I prefer to record with smaller body guitars aka 00 or 000, aka Concert or Auditorium. YMMV. Lots to choose from up to $2500.

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                            • #15
                              Here are the specs for standard the D-18. http://www.mguitar.com/guitars/choosing/guitars.php?p=z&g=h&m=D-18

                              Here the specs for the standard D-28. http://www.mguitar.com/guitars/choosing/guitars.php?p=z&g=h&m=D-28

                              Personally I am a fan of the standard D-28.
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                              Guitar Hero = Guy Magnet<br />
                              You do the math.</font></font><br />
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