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    Hey, I have a late 70's Yamaha FG340 that is simply beautiful and the nicest sounding guitar I have ever played, but the action is way high and the saddle on the bridge is already as low as it can be.

    Is there any way to fix this other than having the neck reset? The techs won't even touch it since they say the guitar isn't worth what it would cost to have it done.

    I just wish I could have it as a nice backup or for my daughter to play. I guess I could try learning slide, but I would rather have it playable for regular playing.

    Thanks!
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    <i>Originally posted by geek_usa </i><br />
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    Have you had a real luthier take a look at it? Is the truss rod at its limit? Is there a lot of relief in the neck?

    When I bought my FG 340 it was a mess. But after the tender ministrations of Steve Pierce, (a maker of fine guitars, mandolins,
    banjos and dobros by the way) that old guitar is now perfect.

    He replaced 8 frets, installed a bone nut and saddle, leveled the frets, adjusted the truss rod and the action went from over 1/4" to 3/32". The tone and playability are so great I wouldn't sell if for $1,000.00. So when someone tells you it isn't worth putting the money into it, is that because of its original cost or because of what they think its potential is?

    Don't give up too easily on that old gal!
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    • #3
      Just curious, but is the bridge starting to lift up or is the top becoming bowed behind the bridge?

      You also mentioned a neck reset. Is the neck starting to separate from the body or does the upper part of the fretboard appear to be "sinking" toward the soundhole?
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      • #4
        There seems to be a little bulging behind the bridge, but it doesn't seem much worse than my other acoustic. Maybe just a little. The bridge saddle is already too low, the strings do not have much bend in them going into the peg holes. In fact, the B string rattles a bit due to it not making good pressure against the saddle.

        No cracks or anything like that in the neck. The guitar is in really good shape, it just sat in the case at normal tuning for a long time with very little play time.

        I do really love the tone and looks of this guitar. I guess I just need to find the right luthier.

        Anyone have any recommendations for the Eastern North Carolina region??
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        <i>Originally posted by geek_usa </i><br />
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        That's damn near sig worthy <img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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        but seriously, don't you think just maybe, possibly, quite interestingly enough, it could be YOU? </b>

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        • #5
          I have the Yamaha FG-300A and i've had it for a while now since 1994....Yamaha's are good..they last long...mine still sounds great..it actually sounds better than my bro's new Carlo Robelli guitar..hehehehehe...

          and wow your's was from the 70's?? thats awesome...!!!!

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          • #6
            Yeah, I bought it in about 1977 or 78.

            Looks to me to have a solid top and laminate back and sides. does anyone know if this is right?
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            <i>Originally posted by geek_usa </i><br />
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            That's damn near sig worthy <img src="http://img3.harmony-central.com/acapella/ubb/biggrin.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Big Grin" class="inlineimg" /><br />
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            but seriously, don't you think just maybe, possibly, quite interestingly enough, it could be YOU? </b>

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            Fender Super Champ XD - Amazing amp<br />
            Vox AC4TV - Love it<br />
            Breedlove AD25/SR Plus<br />
            Squier Classic vibe 50's Tele AND strat!! (strat is FOR SALE)</div>

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            • #7
              i have an old yamaha (fg-110) that i've owned since the mid 70's. The action had always been incredibly high on the guitar since new, and as a result, i rarely if ever played it. I took it to a shop (probably some time in the late 70's) to see if they could lower the action & they basically didn't want to monkey around with it, since it's a low end guitar.
              I have gotten back in to playing only within the last year & purchased a new acoustic (an Alverez) which i have been playing almost exclusively until recently...
              ...since i had the yam just sitting around, I decided to perform a little "luthery" of my own. I figured that if i broke it, I would just toss it, since I had another acoustic to play. I cranked the truss rod about 3/4 of a turn & the action dropped down considerably. I also threw away the old plastic bridge piece & replaced it with a $5 bone bridge.
              What a difference! I wish I would have done this to the guitar 30 years ago.
              Lately iv'e been fingerpicking alot & have been picking up the old yam. It's size really lends itself well to this.
              Anyway, I've been reading alot on this site how bulletproof the old FG's are, and wanted to add my .02

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              • #8
                Originally posted by thatsbunk
                ...since i had the yam just sitting around, I decided to perform a little "luthery" of my own. I figured that if i broke it, I would just toss it, since I had another acoustic to play. I cranked the truss rod about 3/4 of a turn & the action dropped down considerably. I also threw away the old plastic bridge piece & replaced it with a $5 bone bridge.
                What a difference! I wish I would have done this to the guitar 30 years ago.
                You are lucky, 3/4 of a turn is enough to do serious damage if that's not the problem.

                It seems no one wants to work on low ends, and I haven't found someone out east I trust my good stuff to. Since you are in Smithfield I'll guess it's been getting slowly worse since spring. Our humidity has been killer out here this year. I'm not a luthier but have done some minor set up. I might be able to help you zero in on the problem if you are interested. (I'm usually in Greenville, Fountain or at the Beach near by).
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                • #9
                  chiro972 said:

                  Yeah, I bought it in about 1977 or 78.

                  Looks to me to have a solid top and laminate back and sides. does anyone know if this is right?


                  In fact the top is not solid; the FG-340 is all laminate.

                  It really has an amazing tone, doesn't it?

                  Please get your 340 looked at by a real pro. And if it costs you $200.00 to make it right, could you have bought a guitar that sounded even half as good for that amount?

                  Also, I tune down a full note - D-G-C-F-A-D in order to reduce the tension on the neck. You might want to do the same.

                  It is possible that a bridge doctor might help your Yammy or perhaps the bridge could be planed.

                  Let us know how it goes.
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                  • #10
                    Hello, Take off the strings, the saddle and the bridgepins, get a hair drier and about 45 lbs of weights. Place the weights on the bridge (guitar laying face up) then, put the drier into the soundhohe and turn it on high, heat up the guitar for about 10 minutes untill you can really smell the wood, the glue will start to soften and the belly will go down. Let it cool and harden for 24 hours. Repeat if nessecary. Arch

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                        Hello, Take off the strings, the saddle and the bridgepins, get a hair drier and about 45 lbs of weights. Place the weights on the bridge (guitar laying face up) then, put the drier into the soundhohe and turn it on high, heat up the guitar for about 10 minutes untill you can really smell the wood, the glue will start to soften and the belly will go down. Let it cool and harden for 24 hours. Repeat if nessecary. Arch


                        I'd be scared to death to try that, but if it works, WOW!
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                          Hello, Take off the strings, the saddle and the bridgepins, get a hair drier and about 45 lbs of weights. Place the weights on the bridge (guitar laying face up) then, put the drier into the soundhohe and turn it on high, heat up the guitar for about 10 minutes untill you can really smell the wood, the glue will start to soften and the belly will go down. Let it cool and harden for 24 hours. Repeat if nessecary. Arch


                          Yeah, that sounds pretty freaky. He doesn't say if you should leave the weights on overnight, or take them off when you turn off the dryer.

                          If I were you, I would take great care to make sure this guitar gets proper repairs.

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                            Why would anyone resurrect a year-old thread?
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                            <div class="message">Can't put a price on the love one has for an instrument, the mojo it gains from being played by you or good friends, or the good feelings it produces when you pick it up and it feels like an old friend, no matter what the the numbers on the price tag.</div>

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                            One of my songs done by a friend: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJQQGTtRqy0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJQQGTtRqy0</a></div>

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                              Why would anyone resurrect a year-old thread?




                              First post advice to boot. Been a few strange posts of late.

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