Members Sgt. Rock Posted July 23, 2010 Members Share Posted July 23, 2010 Seaguar is the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gull12 Posted July 24, 2010 Members Share Posted July 24, 2010 That's the weirdest f--kin' thing I've ever heard! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members extollo Posted July 24, 2010 Members Share Posted July 24, 2010 ha. i have a lenny breau record where he talks about using fishing line on his 7 string classical. is that where you got the reference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seagullplayer77 Posted July 24, 2010 Members Share Posted July 24, 2010 Fishing line typically contains lead. I'm pretty sure it's designed not to leach out, but . . . I'm not sure I'd want to take the chance, ya know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fastblueheeler Posted July 24, 2010 Members Share Posted July 24, 2010 According to Jose Ramirez: Classical guitar maestro Andres Segovia started using fishing line from the DuPont company for some of his strings and encouraged guitar builders to pursue this new material. The result was the development of a much more reliable and trouble free E, B and G string for the concert classical guitar and a marked increase in the cat population..(just kidding about the cats. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gull12 Posted July 24, 2010 Members Share Posted July 24, 2010 Do you have a pounds test/string tension conversion chart? :poke: Hey, just a thought, if you put some small sinkers on the strings about 2" up from the bridge, I bet you'd get some hell-a-tious sustain, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sixgunner455 Posted July 24, 2010 Members Share Posted July 24, 2010 Monofilament. That makes sense, I suppose. Don't think I'd bother nowadays, though. Would require me to experiment with weights of line that I'd have no other use for. On t'other hand, though ... buying in bulk rolls might save some money. If I were inclined to change my nylon stringed guitars more often than I do, which isn't very frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members panhandler Posted July 25, 2010 Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 I've actually been fishing with guitar strings, and quite successfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terry Allan Hall Posted July 25, 2010 Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 ha. i have a lenny breau record where he talks about using fishing line on his 7 string classical. is that where you got the reference? Yeah, he did, for the high "A" string. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members extollo Posted July 25, 2010 Members Share Posted July 25, 2010 Yeah, he did, for the high "A" string. he called it fishin' line, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members classicalguitar Posted June 30, 2012 Members Share Posted June 30, 2012 hi from Jerry Roberts in nashville. Lenny did indeed use "fishin line" for the hi a string". i am quite sure since i sold him that 7stg classical back in the 1970s. i built a nut with spacing he liked better. I notched it to suit the string diameters and gave Lenny what unfortunately proved to be a lifetime supply of that line. i had tried about a hundred different strings for hi g and hi a on my lute and vihuela, including some marketed as lute strings (expensive) and I also tried every brand of fishing line available. one fishing line made a better hi a than the expensive lute strings. it was dupont stren 25 lb test, i do not think that is available now. I seemed to be very high density nylon but thin enough to tune high and would last a few weeks before breaking in the middle of a gig. when Lenny Moved to LA, Kirk Sand did more (and i'm sure better) setup on that Japanese classical for Lenny. Kirk also made a wonderful 7stg solidbody elec for Lenny. that 7stg classical I sold Lenny was made in the big Matsuoka workshop in Japan and was imported by the late George Dauphinais of Springfield IL, who was a real gentleman and a credit to the classical guitar world. George sold those guitars under his brandname DAUPHIN. I was one of George's distributors at the time and when Lenny needed a 7stg I arranged for some creative financing since Lenny was short of cash as always. When my friend and mentor Chet Atkins heard Lenny on that guitar he told me he wanted one too. Of course he could afford a handmade instrument from an individual luthier so I sold him a nicer 7str made by master luthier Eric Sahlin of Spokane WA. That Sahlin is one of the guitars still in Chet's family. Those were the good old days. I sure wish Chet and Lenny were still with us.Regards,Jerry Roberts615-269-3929jerryrobertsguitars@gmail.comebay id: jerrymroberts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Terry Allan Hall Posted July 2, 2012 Members Share Posted July 2, 2012 hi from Jerry Roberts in nashville. Lenny did indeed use "fishin line" for the hi a string". i am quite sure since i sold him that 7stg classical back in the 1970s. i built a nut with spacing he liked better. I notched it to suit the string diameters and gave Lenny what unfortunately proved to be a lifetime supply of that line. i had tried about a hundred different strings for hi g and hi a on my lute and vihuela, including some marketed as lute strings (expensive) and I also tried every brand of fishing line available. one fishing line made a better hi a than the expensive lute strings. it was dupont stren 25 lb test, i do not think that is available now. I seemed to be very high density nylon but thin enough to tune high and would last a few weeks before breaking in the middle of a gig. when Lenny Moved to LA, Kirk Sand did more (and i'm sure better) setup on that Japanese classical for Lenny. Kirk also made a wonderful 7stg solidbody elec for Lenny. that 7stg classical I sold Lenny was made in the big Matsuoka workshop in Japan and was imported by the late George Dauphinais of Springfield IL, who was a real gentleman and a credit to the classical guitar world. George sold those guitars under his brandname DAUPHIN. I was one of George's distributors at the time and when Lenny needed a 7stg I arranged for some creative financing since Lenny was short of cash as always. When my friend and mentor Chet Atkins heard Lenny on that guitar he told me he wanted one too. Of course he could afford a handmade instrument from an individual luthier so I sold him a nicer 7str made by master luthier Eric Sahlin of Spokane WA. That Sahlin is one of the guitars still in Chet's family. Those were the good old days. I sure wish Chet and Lenny were still with us. Regards, Jerry Roberts 615-269-3929 jerryrobertsguitars@gmail.com ebay id: jerrymroberts Thanks for the details! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bullettoothtony Posted July 2, 2012 Members Share Posted July 2, 2012 There's a guy here in the UK who just started a new line in strings for the ukulele (D'addario repackaged their classical strings for the uke so similar thing)and when asked on a certain forum whether it was fishing line, he said it was. Alot of ukulele builders will string their ukes up with fishing line, I believe seaguar fishing line is flourocarbon, same as Worth clears, one of the top strings for the ukulele. Not sure I'd want to try it but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Seorie Posted July 2, 2012 Members Share Posted July 2, 2012 The great Madagascar guitarist and singer D'Gary played cheap (Giannini?) guitar which he strung with fishing line or wire through necessity, he became a world class musician on this instrument:lol: interpreting Madagascan folk tunes played by traditional ensembles. heres a picture of him with his original plywood guitar [video=youtube;ns5QaZaaDdE] more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StringJunky Posted July 3, 2012 Members Share Posted July 3, 2012 hi from Jerry Roberts in nashville. Lenny did indeed use "fishin line" for the hi a string". i am quite sure since i sold him that 7stg classical back in the 1970s. i built a nut with spacing he liked better. I notched it to suit the string diameters and gave Lenny what unfortunately proved to be a lifetime supply of that line. i had tried about a hundred different strings for hi g and hi a on my lute and vihuela, including some marketed as lute strings (expensive) and I also tried every brand of fishing line available. one fishing line made a better hi a than the expensive lute strings. it was dupont stren 25 lb test, i do not think that is available now. I seemed to be very high density nylon but thin enough to tune high and would last a few weeks before breaking in the middle of a gig. when Lenny Moved to LA, Kirk Sand did more (and i'm sure better) setup on that Japanese classical for Lenny. Kirk also made a wonderful 7stg solidbody elec for Lenny. that 7stg classical I sold Lenny was made in the big Matsuoka workshop in Japan and was imported by the late George Dauphinais of Springfield IL, who was a real gentleman and a credit to the classical guitar world. George sold those guitars under his brandname DAUPHIN. I was one of George's distributors at the time and when Lenny needed a 7stg I arranged for some creative financing since Lenny was short of cash as always. When my friend and mentor Chet Atkins heard Lenny on that guitar he told me he wanted one too. Of course he could afford a handmade instrument from an individual luthier so I sold him a nicer 7str made by master luthier Eric Sahlin of Spokane WA. That Sahlin is one of the guitars still in Chet's family. Those were the good old days. I sure wish Chet and Lenny were still with us.Regards,Jerry Roberts615-269-3929jerryrobertsguitars@gmail.comebay id: jerrymroberts Thank you for posting Mr. Roberts. How did that line sound on your lute and vihuela? For those here who aren't familiar with Jerry Roberts: he is a legend in the world of classical guitar sales, a gentleman, and just a wonderful person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted July 3, 2012 Members Share Posted July 3, 2012 Fishing line typically contains lead. I'm pretty sure it's designed not to leach out, but . . . I'm not sure I'd want to take the chance, ya know? No. fishing line does not typically contain lead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Neal Posted July 3, 2012 Members Share Posted July 3, 2012 There's a guy here in the UK who just started a new line in strings for the ukulele (D'addario repackaged their classical strings for the uke so similar thing)and when asked on a certain forum whether it was fishing line, he said it was. Alot of ukulele builders will string their ukes up with fishing line, I believe seaguar fishing line is flourocarbon, same as Worth clears, one of the top strings for the ukulele. Not sure I'd want to try it but there you go. I do not know about classical guitar strings, but I do know good fluorocarbon fishing line makes good uke strings, that's all that Worth, Fremont, Martin (the new) and any other uke strings really are. Not all the same gauge, but fishing line nonetheless. You'd have to figure out what tensions you desire, then buy 6 rolls, or 4 for a uke. Could be cheaper. Fluorocarbon strings, in my experience, are the most stable, and not as heat-reactive as regular nylon. I have no idea why, but it just is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bullettoothtony Posted July 4, 2012 Members Share Posted July 4, 2012 I do not know about classical guitar strings, but I do know good fluorocarbon fishing line makes good uke strings, that's all that Worth, Fremont, Martin (the new) and any other uke strings really are. Not all the same gauge, but fishing line nonetheless. You'd have to figure out what tensions you desire, then buy 6 rolls, or 4 for a uke. Could be cheaper. Fluorocarbon strings, in my experience, are the most stable, and not as heat-reactive as regular nylon. I have no idea why, but it just is. Yep, a ukulele maker here in the UK has 4 rolls of varying gauge on his bench. He does the final set-up and strings em up with the line. I agree on flourocarbon. My pono is strung with flourocarbon strings (worth) and they're the best I've found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Joiedewinter Posted June 19, 2018 Members Share Posted June 19, 2018 So i need help, im from lindon. Im making modern african harps and was told to use standard nylin guitar strings. I have the clear ones, i i ju need the black ones. People dont sell them individually in london you gave gave to buy whole pack. I dont need whole pack and its too expensive. Someone mentioned you xan use fishing wire. I need it for 3rd g string, 2nd b string and 1st e string. Do you know what fishing wire in black can work for this? or anywhere that sells the black strings individually? Joie.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted June 19, 2018 Members Share Posted June 19, 2018 Joie, its a far more complex problem than just putting a piece of nylon fishing line on your instrument. There is a complex relationship between the vibrating frequency of a string and its tension, length, and a material property called "unit mass". I would suggest that you send an inquiry to D'Addario string company. Address it to Fan Tao, their director of research. https://www.linkedin.com/in/fan-tao-a81462b I have attended several seminars where Tao addresses the problem of finding strings for odd ball instruments. If you have any luck how about letting us know and post some information about you and your instruments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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