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  • #16






    Quote Originally Posted by EdBega
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    I'll take that as an attaboy.



    Eight more and I get a set of steak knives.




    mm-sorry. Your name is on the restricted list. No sharp objects, no belts, no plastic bags.

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    • #17






      Quote Originally Posted by FretFiend.
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      There are two things that could obviously deteriorate strings. The first is oil, sweat, dead skin, and/or other assorted crud from dirty human fingers, and the second is wear at the fret points... but a string only accumulates these maladies if it gets played, so the unplayed strings are not affected by these things.



      Corrosion or inclusion of chemicals in the air could deteriorate the metal. Unless the strings are sealed up, this is even going to happen to strings in a package. I haven't heard too much about strings going dead on the shelf.



      As to the strings "stretching," or changing hardness, basic physics says that it ain't gonna happen. The tension on a string is well below the modulus of elasticity for the steel involved. In simple terms, that means that the metal is not stressed to the point where it is permanently deformed, or where its hardness is changed.



      I'm betting that no one could tell that the strings on that closet queen are a year old by playing it.




      Not trying to be argumentative FF, but here's the problem as I see it.



      1. You took the strings out of the package.

      2. You untwisted the coils to straighten them out.

      3. You handled each one to install it on the guitar.

      4. You tune the guitar, strum a few chords, or whatever.



      Then you put the guitar in the closet.



      Unless you did all that wearing rubber gloves, I'm thinking you already have some "skin" in the deterioration game, and the clock is ticking, albeit at a slower rate than playing them every day.



      No?



      Paul

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      • #18






        Quote Originally Posted by OldTwelver
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        No?



        Paul




        Yes.



        Your piano string analogy was also pertinent.



        http://www.pianoforte.co.nz/webapps/i/58/100588/10088

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        • #19






          Quote Originally Posted by Queequeg
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          mm-sorry. Your name is on the restricted list. No sharp objects, no belts, no plastic bags.




          Dude, all you need to do when your head gets trapped is poke a hole (with your finger) where your mouth is ...
          "Plunk your Magic Twanger, Froggy". Andy Devine

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          • #20
            Best way I have found to increase string life:



            Immediately after playing-take wrag in hand-wipe strings thoroughly-Put guitar in case



            Repeat steps 1-4 everytime you play.





            As far as a closeted instrument goes, I think Pitar has it right about string tension. After a while they just lose their elasticity and the tone goes away. However, some of my electric guitars strings seem to survive for a pretty long while before they give it up.
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            • #21






              Quote Originally Posted by Queequeg
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              In a word: oxidation.

              But jamesp posted this last week which will cure what ails ya.




              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNJ1g18fmwg




              Damn Q, I was going along just fine with this chick till she wasted a perfectly good piece of fried chicken ruining a perfectly good set of strings on a perfectly good bass guitar. This chick may be cute but she just ain't right in the head!
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              • #22






                Quote Originally Posted by OldTwelver
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                Not trying to be argumentative FF, but here's the problem as I see it.

                1. You took the strings out of the package.

                2. You untwisted the coils to straighten them out.

                3. You handled each one to install it on the guitar.

                4. You tune the guitar, strum a few chords, or whatever.

                Then you put the guitar in the closet.

                Unless you did all that wearing rubber gloves, I'm thinking you already have some "skin" in the deterioration game, and the clock is ticking, albeit at a slower rate than playing them every day.

                No?

                Paul




                No.



                C'mon. Briefly handling the strings is gonna make that much difference? What if the guy who coiled them up and put them in the package wasn't wearing rubber gloves.



                Okay, for your argument's sake, lets say I wore rubber gloves when I put the freakin' string on.
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                • #23
                  And???? Finish the postulation, dangit!
                  Be back when I get back. TTFN.

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                  • #24
                    Check this vid. Appears that all throughout the manufacturing process up to and including the packaging, guitar strings are handled by a lot of bare hands. Those filthy bastards!



                    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_MVOZnhLVc
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                    Strangers passing in the street
                    By chance two separate glances meet
                    I am you and what I see is me . . .

                    Roger Waters
                    Echoes
                    from the MEDDLE LP

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                    • #25
                      Plastic alien hands, no doubt.
                      Be back when I get back. TTFN.

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                      • #26
                        Moving parts wear out.



                        Metals corrode at different rates due to environment and contaminants.
                        "Plunk your Magic Twanger, Froggy". Andy Devine

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