Members EdBega Posted November 5, 2012 Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 Free fender someone was throwing away so the price was right.So how would your backyard Luthier fix this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted November 5, 2012 Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 Humidify it. Glue it. Cleat it if needed. (I bet it has other troubles besides the crack and being a Fender though.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdBega Posted November 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 Originally Posted by FretFiend. Humidify it. Glue it. Cleat it if needed.(I bet it has other troubles besides the crack and being a Fender though.) Don't see any other issues, the neck looks ok, action was a little higher than I like. I am Humidifying it already don't have a case so probably try a plastic bag if need be.What kind of glue? If I need to cleat what would be good for that?Something readily available at any hardware store for both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted November 5, 2012 Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 I'm thinking that that crack is humidity related. If so, it should close up once the wood is back up to normal humidity. A very thin watery cyanoacrylate maybe. Wick it in with a toothpick or something similar. (assuming that the crack closes up.) But don't take my word for it. Read all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Freeman Keller Posted November 5, 2012 Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 FF nailed it. Let the humidity close it, wick some thin CA (which you can scrape back with a razor blade then polish and you'll hardly know the crack was there). For cleats, I would use spruce but then I have some, any strong close grained wood or even some linen cloth would work. If you can clamp it, use Titebond, but if you can't, CA will be fine to hold the cleat in place. Make sure all the braces are tight - again, you can wick CA into cracks if they aren't. Pretty common repair - put a good humidifier in the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdBega Posted November 5, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 Perfect thanks ... btw it doesn't sound half bad I put some newer strings I had on to see if it was worth saving. It'll make a good gift for someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted November 5, 2012 Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 Solid top. Can't be all bad even with that name on the headstock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bullettoothtony Posted November 5, 2012 Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 Hey, I tell you what, after a while with No wooden items with 6 strings I'd be ECSTATIC with it as a gift, even with fender on the headstock!! Hell, even with the curse word beginning with Z on the headstock!! Go for it Ed, someone will love it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Opa John Posted November 5, 2012 Members Share Posted November 5, 2012 EdBega, you didn't mention the model of this Fender you picked up. Some of the older Fender acoustics could make very good guitars. Some of the "F" models from back in the late '70s and early '80s were OK in my book.I know Fender acoustics aren't known for their great sound, but up until I couple of years ago I had an all laminated F-65 Fender dreadnought that I bought new back in early '82 that sounded as good, if not better, than quite a few solid top budget guitars I played over the years. I was never embarassed to take it anywhere and it held its own very nicely. I sold it to a friend of mine who just happens to feel the same way about it. However, given the choices on today's market, I don't think I'd ever buy another one. These days, you can buy a solid top Yamaha for less than I paid for that laminated Fender.......times have changed over the years.Just for kicks, here's a shot of my old F-65. It was my ONLY guitar for quite a few years. It was built like a tank and still in very nice condition when I sold it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdBega Posted November 6, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 6, 2012 John it's a DG 8S looks to be going for $200 with some other goodies. I was expecting it (going by rumors) to sound horrible. It's no Yamaha but it's about the same build and cost as the FG700. BTT it's like a Martin compared to some of the {censored} boxes I played as a teenager so I'm sure someone will appreciate it. FF it was left in the AZ sun so it's definitely a humidity caused issue. Anyway any idea how long it will take for the gap to close? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FretFiend. Posted November 6, 2012 Members Share Posted November 6, 2012 If you put it in a known humidity environment above 60%, expect two days, maybe more, up to a week. That's based on what I've seen in some of the videos from Taylor guitars. Prowl around on the Taylor site. Bob Taylor did some absolutely great videos on humidity and guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takanick Posted November 6, 2012 Members Share Posted November 6, 2012 This happened to my Martin but the split is only 1.3 inches long. it happened when we went to Vegas and I got cocky and didn't use a humidifier. It was a suicide mission. The dessert with a guitar and with no humidifier is asking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members takanick Posted November 6, 2012 Members Share Posted November 6, 2012 Originally Posted by Opa John EdBega, you didn't mention the model of this Fender you picked up. Some of the older Fender acoustics could make very good guitars. Some of the "F" models from back in the late '70s and early '80s were OK in my book.I know Fender acoustics aren't known for their great sound, but up until I couple of years ago I had an all laminated F-65 Fender dreadnought that I bought new back in early '82 that sounded as good, if not better, than quite a few solid top budget guitars I played over the years. I was never embarassed to take it anywhere and it held its own very nicely. I sold it to a friend of mine who just happens to feel the same way about it. However, given the choices on today's market, I don't think I'd ever buy another one. These days, you can buy a solid top Yamaha for less than I paid for that laminated Fender.......times have changed over the years.Just for kicks, here's a shot of my old F-65. It was my ONLY guitar for quite a few years. It was built like a tank and still in very nice condition when I sold it. Looks like a champ. I like the double dot in lay on the 7th fret and the wood beam in the middle where the sticker is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdBega Posted November 7, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 It's been a couple of days and looks to be mostly closed but I don't think it is going to be flush (as in a hair line crack) also one side seems to be slightly higher, it may just need more time. Glad I took the photo now for comparison though ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamesp Posted November 7, 2012 Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 How are you set for clamps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdBega Posted November 7, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 7, 2012 James large C clamps and a few of the wooden type clamps nothing that would reach that far in though. Looking at the bracing there is a strip that runs under the split between the bracing and the top which would probably make using a cleat not an option.Here's what it looks like right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdBega Posted November 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 9, 2012 What is used to thin the CA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamesp Posted November 9, 2012 Members Share Posted November 9, 2012 I've seen CAs sold with their own thinner in woodworking catalogs, but it's safer to buy glue in the consistency you need. I might even use two different glues. A thin one where it's tight and a gap-filling CA where the crack hasn't closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members auriemma Posted November 9, 2012 Members Share Posted November 9, 2012 Find a hobby shop. They will have all grades of CA available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members EdBega Posted November 9, 2012 Author Members Share Posted November 9, 2012 Turned out to be ok the way it came, the brush was helpful in metering out the right amount and preventing runs. I got a little carried away scrapping it with a razor blade and I should have stuck with working in the direction of the grain but it's good enough in this case ...Not that visible when viewed as would be normally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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