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    I guess to start off I should introduce myself; I'm a 20 year old college student who primarily plays electric but likes to fiddle around on acoustic from time to time, plays mostly for fun, and really has no intentions of gigging anytime in the near future. I joined these forums around five years ago but when HC underwent an overhaul I couldn't log back into my old account, I had to create a new one. So hello.



    Anyways, I was 15 when my grandparents sent me $200 for Christmas and I decided to buy a steel-string acoustic from my local Sam Ash since I never owned that much money before. The one I settled on was a Carlo Robelli BWF414THCE (acoustic-electric, single cutaway, oval sound hole) mostly because I liked the color and it was cheap. While changing the strings recently, the bridge pin on the low E was stuck and I broke it trying to get it out.



    The action is WAY too high and I'm afraid of sanding down both the glued-in saddle and nut. The preamp doesn't work anymore and the bridge has a few battle wounds as a result of my struggle of getting the stuck bridge pin out. I know that these problems are easy fixes for a good tech but my question is is it worth it to pay to have these done or should I just replace the pins, change the strings and try and see if I can trade it in or sell it online somehow in order to fund a new guitar? If so does anyone have any recommendations for a poor college kid to try out? Thanks, guys.



    EDIT: For those saying I should sell it, would it be better to sell it privately or trade it in towards credit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeekRocket


    The action is WAY too high and I'm afraid of sanding down both glued in the saddle and nut. The preamp doesn't work anymore and the bridge has a few battle wounds as a result of my struggle of getting the stuck bridge pin out. I know that these problems easy fixes for a good tech but my question is is it worth it to pay to have these done or should I just replace the pins, change the strings and try and see if I can trade it in or sell it online somehow in order to fund a new guitar?




    Sorry. No easy or cheap fixes for that POS. Replace the pins, change the strings, and sell it... if you can... for whatever you can get for it... which probably won't be much.



    Then go buy yourself a Yamaha FG700S. You can thank me later.



    BTW, if you have a stuck bridge pin, take all the strings loose, stick your hand in the sound hole, and push the pin out from inside the guitar.
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    • #3






      Quote Originally Posted by GeekRocket


      The action is WAY too high and I'm afraid of sanding down both glued in the saddle and nut. The preamp doesn't work anymore and the bridge has a few battle wounds as a result of my struggle of getting the stuck bridge pin out. I know that these problems easy fixes for a good tech but my question is is it worth it to pay to have these done or should I just replace the pins, change the strings and try and see if I can trade it in or sell it online somehow in order to fund a new guitar?




      Sorry. No easy or cheap fixes for that POS. Replace the pins, change the strings, and sell it... if you can... for whatever you can get for it... which probably won't be much.



      Then go buy yourself a Yamaha FG700S. You can thank me later.



      BTW, if you have a stuck bridge pin, take all the strings loose, stick your hand in the sound hole, and push the pin out from inside the guitar.
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      • #4
        How much $ do you have to invest in a new guitar? 100 bucks would get you a better guitar compared to what you have now. Clean it up, fix the pin and sell it.
        If you find your self alone riding in green fields with the sun in your face... do not be troubled, for you are in Elysium. And you are already dead! Brothers... what we do in life... echoes in eternity! (Gladiator)

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        • #5
          How much $ do you have to invest in a new guitar? 100 bucks would get you a better guitar compared to what you have now. Clean it up, fix the pin and sell it.
          If you find your self alone riding in green fields with the sun in your face... do not be troubled, for you are in Elysium. And you are already dead! Brothers... what we do in life... echoes in eternity! (Gladiator)

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          • #6






            Quote Originally Posted by FretFiend.
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            BTW, if you have a stuck bridge pin, take all the strings loose, stick your hand in the sound hole, and push the pin out from inside the guitar.




            Believe me I tried that technique with a quarter for a while until I finally got it out from on top using a metal cooking skewer.









            Quote Originally Posted by guildfire
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            How much $ do you have to invest in a new guitar? 100 bucks would get you a better guitar compared to what you have now. Clean it up, fix the pin and sell it.




            I have $250 that I'm willing to work with freely so I'd say my absolute limit is around $300. Of the hundreds of makes and models in that price range I suppose you could say I'm looking for a diamond in the rough (if that's even possible).

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            • #7






              Quote Originally Posted by FretFiend.
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              BTW, if you have a stuck bridge pin, take all the strings loose, stick your hand in the sound hole, and push the pin out from inside the guitar.




              Believe me I tried that technique with a quarter for a while until I finally got it out from on top using a metal cooking skewer.









              Quote Originally Posted by guildfire
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              How much $ do you have to invest in a new guitar? 100 bucks would get you a better guitar compared to what you have now. Clean it up, fix the pin and sell it.




              I have $250 that I'm willing to work with freely so I'd say my absolute limit is around $300. Of the hundreds of makes and models in that price range I suppose you could say I'm looking for a diamond in the rough (if that's even possible).

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              • #8
                At that budget Id suggest forget electronics and go for the best acoustic tone and feel you can get.

                Id suggest looking at Yamaha, Recording King, possibly a used Seagull could be had for that.

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                • #9
                  At that budget Id suggest forget electronics and go for the best acoustic tone and feel you can get.

                  Id suggest looking at Yamaha, Recording King, possibly a used Seagull could be had for that.

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                  • #10
                    You can get a good guitar for around that with a solid wood top nowadays. Recording King, Yamaha, Ibanez Artwood (NOT Exotic Wood).



                    Fender and Washburn make solid top acoustics for low price (I don't personally like them, but it is subjective, just not my sound or feel).



                    Cort and Hohner make highly underrated guitars under $300. http://www.cortguitars.com/en/product/l900p Hohner Essentials http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTuCEeFi3s



                    http://www.veelahguitars.com/ makes nice guitars for much less than you'd expect (if you can find one).







                    I wouldn't worry about fixing up that Robelli it is just not gonna sell for more than repairs sound like they'd cost.

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                    • #11
                      You can get a good guitar for around that with a solid wood top nowadays. Recording King, Yamaha, Ibanez Artwood (NOT Exotic Wood).



                      Fender and Washburn make solid top acoustics for low price (I don't personally like them, but it is subjective, just not my sound or feel).



                      Cort and Hohner make highly underrated guitars under $300. http://www.cortguitars.com/en/product/l900p Hohner Essentials http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkTuCEeFi3s



                      http://www.veelahguitars.com/ makes nice guitars for much less than you'd expect (if you can find one).







                      I wouldn't worry about fixing up that Robelli it is just not gonna sell for more than repairs sound like they'd cost.

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                      • #12






                        Quote Originally Posted by Pine Apple Slim
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                        At that budget Id suggest forget electronics and go for the best acoustic tone and feel you can get.

                        Id suggest looking at Yamaha, Recording King, possibly a used Seagull could be had for that.




                        I'll second that--the part about forgoing electronics. You can add those later without hugely great expense, and in all likelihood you'll be much happier with the amplified sound you'll get from the add-on system than whatever system will come in a lower-end guitar.



                        And if gigging is not in the near future, there's really no reason to have electronics. Even if you record at home, you'll get MUCH better recorded sound from miking the guitar.



                        As PAS notes there are some very good guitars at the low-ish end. If it was me, I'd go used rather than new. But either way, play before buy. Good luck!
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                        • #13






                          Quote Originally Posted by Pine Apple Slim
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                          At that budget Id suggest forget electronics and go for the best acoustic tone and feel you can get.

                          Id suggest looking at Yamaha, Recording King, possibly a used Seagull could be had for that.




                          I'll second that--the part about forgoing electronics. You can add those later without hugely great expense, and in all likelihood you'll be much happier with the amplified sound you'll get from the add-on system than whatever system will come in a lower-end guitar.



                          And if gigging is not in the near future, there's really no reason to have electronics. Even if you record at home, you'll get MUCH better recorded sound from miking the guitar.



                          As PAS notes there are some very good guitars at the low-ish end. If it was me, I'd go used rather than new. But either way, play before buy. Good luck!
                          __________________________
                          She's the lady of the light
                          Yellow incandescent night
                          Tiger eyes burning bright
                          In the understory
                          I can't see the forest
                          For the branches and the leaves
                          But I believe
                          I do believe
                          by me:

                          www.box.com

                          "Music is your own experience, your thoughts, your wisdom. If you don't live it, it won't come out of your horn."
                          Charlie Parker

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                          • #14
                            OK, you the pin out. Do you want to try to fix it up - either to play or to sell? If so, I'd be happy to try to talk you thru a few basic setup operations. Before you do anything else, take some careful measurements for me - put a capo on 1, hold the middle strings down at 13 and measure the relief with feeler guages. Next, either measure the height of the low and high E strings at one, or put a capo on at two and tap them over one - you should hear a slight "ping". Lastly, measure the low and high E at 12 to at least 1/64 accuracy - use a good quality machinist rule or stack feeler guages. Post all of those numbers and we'll decide what needs to be done.



                            Next, how do you know the saddle is glued in (nuts usually have a very small drop of glue but saddles are rarely glued in). Try working it out carefully with a pair of diagonal wire cutters - working from each end. I just want to know if it will come out. Don't worry about the nut - I'm going to guess that it won't need much.



                            All we can do here is make it more playable - won't change the sound or fix the electronics. After that you can decide if you want to sell it, keep it, get something different.

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                            • #15
                              If you consider yourself somewhat handy, I'd attempt to make the guitar playable (following FK's expert advice) and then I'd sell it. Lots of decent options under $300 these days.

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