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  • What guitar to buy

    So I'm a beginner, and I'm looking for an acoustic that's relatively easy to play (up for a challenge though) and under $160/

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    No one? Did I do something wrong?

    And also, are the strings solely responsible for the sound? If so, why is the guitar so credited with the sound? It is because they come with their own strings or something? Because I have this 1/2, terrible-condition acoustic from years ago and I recognized that 2 strings were of a different material and had that fluent sound I was talking about sound.

    Another example is the intro to Dream Theater's OTBOA:




    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28MmnThlYOo





    The Yamaha F310 looks the most promising, so unless suggested otherwise I'm going to try my luck with that. Still waiting for a few weeks in case I find something better for my money.

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    • #3
      I don't live in the UK, so I can't help you about guitar availability and prices there. Do you have a music/guitar teacher, or perhaps some friends who know something about guitars? Maybe they can give you some advice. Yamaha is good, but I think there a couple of brands that might be better in the UK. Garthman or Katopp are from the UK, and they may be along shortly with some better answers.








      I'd like one that can play songs such as...



      Strange request. It's more the player than the guitar.



      BTW, electro-acoustic is an acoustic guitar with electrics built into it, so it can be plugged into an amplifier.
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      • #4
        No problem. If you suggest any, I'll check to see whether they're available here.
        Uhm, my cousin I guess, but he's more into screamo metal so he into electrics. Besides, I haven't been in touch with him for years. But sure, I guess I could ask my (not private) music teacher.

        Yeah, there's just that exotic sound that Opeth has that you can't get out of a regular folk/country one. I doubt you could get it from a Rogue or something. Or maybe it's just that that sound is made using only one string after another and not a chord, I've noticed that in those type of songs. Come to think of it, it's probably that.
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at7nIxemKjc

        By electrics, do you mean the controls as seen in this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52I_cUO_bt0
        And do you suggest them, or aren't they worth the extra money?
        Thanks for answering!

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        • #5
          In that price range?

          NO - and I mean NO - electronics. Just a waste.

          Best buys: Washburn WD20, Washburn WD10, Cort Earth 100. Everything else is either hit-or-miss or just better to be avoided.

          Have a look at www.thomann.de
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          • #6
            Ease of play has more to do with the set up than the brand or style of guitar. Nice low strings but not so low they buzz, a well crafted nut, nice smooth frets, etc. Most guitars (major brands at least) nowadays come set up pretty decently, but all can be improved by a good luthier.

            The style of music has way more to do with the player and the techniques used than the kind of guitar. Just about any guitar can play any style of music. Yes they're differences, but most wont be noticed by the beginner. About the only thing you would notice would be nylon string classical vs a steel string, thats a big difference. I'm assuming you want a regular steel string guitar.

            Electronics are in there to amplify the guitar. To use them, you must also have an amp to plug it into. I dont recommend electronics on an inexpensive guitar because they usually suck. Thats the one major area they usually skimp on the keep the price low on electric acoustic models. You can always get a pickup installed and buy an amp later, after you sorta learn a few things about playing guitar.

            I suggest you go to a shop and see whats available that you can afford. Look for something with a solid wood top for best tone usually. Even if you cant play yet, hold them and see whats seems comfortable in terms of body size and neck width. Pick out 3 or 4 and have the guy at the shop play them for you. Then just bite the bullet and pick your poison.

            Big important thing: Make sure you get a tuner and learn to use it. No need to spend a bunch. A simple clip on the headstock one is fine. Or if you have a smartphone, there are tuner aps for cheap. But in any case you need an in tune guitar to learn on for sure.

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            • #7
              Had a look at the Thoman UK site, Id consider these:



              Recording King RD-06

              Recording King RD-06 Acoustic Steel Guitar, Dreadnought, solid Sitka Spruce thomann Top, X-Bracing, Back & Sides Mahogany, Mahogany Neck, C-Profile, Rosewood Fretboard, 20 Frets, Scale 645mm, nut width 43 mm, Bone Nut, Tortoise Shell Body Binding, Finish Natural Nitrocellulose



              Washburn WD-10S NT Washburn Heritage Series WD-10S NT. Acoustic Dreadnought style guitar, Solid Alaskan thomann Sitka Spruce top, Quarter sawn scalloped bracing, Mahogany sides and back, Satin finished mahogany neck with two-way truss rod, Neck and headstock binding, Rosewood fingerboard and bridge with bone nut and ...





              The Loar LH-250-SN Vintage Sunburst

              The thomann Loar LH-250-SN VS Small Body Acoustic Steel Guitar, Folk Style, solid Spruce Top, Back & Sides solid Mahogany, Mahogany Neck, Rosewood Fretboard, Abalone/M.O.P. Inlays Headstock, Open Butterbean Tuners, Scale 648mm, Bone Nut, Nut width 42,90mm, Finish: Sunburst. optional Case: 122212



              Washburn WF-10S NT

              Washburn Heritage Series WF-10S NTAcoustic, Folk style guitar, Solid Alaskan thomann Sitka Spruce top, Quarter sawn scalloped bracing, Mahogany sides and back, Satin finished mahogany neck with two-way truss rod, Neck and headstock binding, Rosewood fingerboard and bridge with bone nut and saddle,...

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              • #8
                Should be able to find a few used Crafter models in your price range Perhaps a D6 or D7, or a GA6 or GA7

                I was trying to browse UK ads and there seem to be a few of these available in your price range, More so in private sales than from a dealer it appears.



                Patience is a plus trying to take your time find the right guitar for you that feels good and sounds right in your hands, Do you have any friends that play that could go along and check the guitar out for you to make sure it is decent condition?

                That could be a big plus!
                CapersI always knew I was Undecided, but now I am not so sureGreat acoustic Pick Ups at Reasonable priceshttp://www.jjb-electronics.com/our_products.html

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                • #9
                  Thanks for the advice everyone! I have to wait for my reply to be confirmed by an administrator (multi-quote) so I'll just add on to what I said on the TBC post.

                  @Katopp, those guitars are all above the price range. You probably read the dollars as GBP. To clarify, it's a maximum of

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                  • #10
                    Step 1: Go to your local music store

                    Step 2: Tell them your price range

                    Step 3: Play all guitars in that range and choose the one you like best

                    Step 4: Rock
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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by Ashir
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                      Thanks for the advice everyone! I have to wait for my reply to be confirmed by an administrator (multi-quote) so I'll just add on to what I said on the TBC post.

                      @Katopp, those guitars are all above the price range. You probably read the dollars as GBP. To clarify, it's a maximum of

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                      • #12
                        I don't understand - the specs for the Yamaha say that it's a spruce top. Or am I reading it wrong, and that it's better to have a laminated plywood top?



                        The steel strings are definitely what I'm after. Thanks for providing examples!

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                        • #13
                          Its laminated spruce.

                          Typically guitar makers put "solid" in front of the wood type if its not laminated.

                          Otherwise you can assume laminated.

                          Its a marketing thing.

                          Laminated is less expensive so they don't brag about it or publicize the fact

                          If you want solid wood you gotta pay for it, sorry.

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                          • #14
                            Over your budget but you should get a Yamaha FG700MS
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                            • #15
                              I agree w Ed. Well worth the extra dough. I'd find a way to earn a few extra bucks if I was you.

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