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  • Taylor 414 vs Larrivee L03R

    I have been on a hunt for a new acoustic guitar (I already own a Taylor Big Baby) and I have narrowed down my search to these 2 models:

    - Taylor 414 (grand auditorium shape with ovangkol back/sides), and

    - Larrivee L-03R (fairly similar shape and specs than the 414, but with Rosewood back/side).

    Pricewise, the Taylor is more money. Both feel great. Larrivee has raving reviews accross the board. Taylor has mixed reviews. Many loves the Taylor tone and quality, but many also have gotten tired of the brightness or "dullness" of the same taylor tone, which is categorized as being vanilla. I don't know what all that really mean, but I can't ignore user reviews after they have played their guitars several months. Trying out a guitar in a store for 30 minutes (which I have done half a dozen time the past 3 weeks) is not always sufficient to make the right choice. Since we are talking about $1,200 to $1,500 I don't want to rush and overlook something.

    What's your experience with either of these guitars?

    Moonlight Blue
    Rock and Roll Forever!

  • #2
    I'm guessing you'll get a diversity of opinions. I've owned three 414's. The first two had ovangkol back and sides; my current one is a limited edition that has rosewood. The reason I've owned three is that each time I've sold one, I've regretted it and thus ended up replacing it. I'm planning to hang on to my current one.

    I don't find Taylors to be overly bright, though they're certainly brighter sounding than - say - a comparable Martin. I've never owned an L-03. The only Larrivee I've owned was a D-05. While a nice guitar, I didn't find it to have a very disinguished tone, which is why I sold it.

    I think it depends on the tone you're looking for, as opposed to what others prefer.

    Keep in mind also that these two guitars play differently, and while they might both seem to play great in the store, the odds are over time you'd find yourself preferring one to the other in that department.

    In any event, I love my current 414. I really like the Expression System. To me it sounds far more natural than any other pickup/preamp combination I've played. I'm also a fan of the NT neck design.
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    • #3
      This is my take on it:




      It's a 314CE L7 (Blackwood). Plays and sounds better than it looks IMO.
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      • #4
        You can get a Larrivee L-03R for about $850. I would go with the L-03R over the Taylor. It's several hundred less and sounds better too.

        I paid $779.00 for an L-03 (mahogany) 4 months ago from Jason at http://www.notableguitars.com/

        Visit his website and email him for his current price list. He has the best prices, free shipping and outstanding customer service.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Hudman
          Y It's several hundred less and sounds better too.


          I love Larri's, but cannot agree with your statement (only due to it's inaccuracy).
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Moonlight Blue
            I have been on a hunt for a new acoustic guitar (I already own a Taylor Big Baby) and I have narrowed down my search to these 2 models:

            - Taylor 414 (grand auditorium shape with ovangkol back/sides), and

            - Larrivee L-03R (fairly similar shape and specs than the 414, but with Rosewood back/side).

            Pricewise, the Taylor is more money. Both feel great. Larrivee has raving reviews accross the board. Taylor has mixed reviews. Many loves the Taylor tone and quality, but many also have gotten tired of the brightness or "dullness" of the same taylor tone, which is categorized as being vanilla. I don't know what all that really mean, but I can't ignore user reviews after they have played their guitars several months. Trying out a guitar in a store for 30 minutes (which I have done half a dozen time the past 3 weeks) is not always sufficient to make the right choice. Since we are talking about $1,200 to $1,500 I don't want to rush and overlook something.

            What's your experience with either of these guitars?

            Moonlight Blue


            I once played an ovankol and spruce 414 that stil haunts me with memories of touch and tone. But I let her...uhh...it get away. I really loved how responsive it was. Someday....

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            • #7
              Originally posted by t60 fan


              I love Larri's, but cannot agree with your statement (only due to it's inaccuracy).


              What do you mean exactly? Does the 414 sounds better? In which way?

              I did find the L-03RE at nobleguitars.com for $925 free shipping. Worth it?

              MB
              Rock and Roll Forever!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by t60 fan


                I love Larri's, but cannot agree with your statement (only due to it's inaccuracy).


                What are you talking about? My statement is based on fact.

                You can buy an L-03R for around $900. They were going for $850 4 months ago. The Taylor 414 sells for $1399 at Music123.

                According to my math, the the L-03R is apprx. $400 less.

                Agree or not, my statement about the price was accurate.

                Tone is subjective. My opinion is Larrivee guitars sound better than Taylor guitars. I should have made it clear that I was stating my opinion. Hey, I'm no tone expert.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by t60 fan
                  This is my take on it:




                  It's a 314CE L7 (Blackwood). Plays and sounds better than it looks IMO.


                  there it is again,

                  man that guitar would look so much better
                  propped up against MY couch!
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Hudman


                    What are you talking about? My statement is based on fact.

                    You can buy an L-03R for around $900. They were going for $850 4 months ago. The Taylor 414 sells for $1399 at Music123.

                    According to my math, the the L-03R is apprx. $400 less.

                    Agree or not, my statement about the price was accurate.

                    Tone is subjective. My opinion is Larrivee guitars sound better than Taylor guitars. I should have made it clear that I was stating my opinion. Hey, I'm no tone expert.


                    Oh I agree re: the $. But the tone part is where I differ.
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                    • #11
                      tone is subjective, you'll like one more than the other...

                      love the L bodied larrivee's... I prefer how my L sounds over every taylor i've heard...

                      on price alone, i feel (as do alot of folks) that as far as features go, the larrivee is a cut above pretty much anybody...
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                      • #12
                        Please accept my apologies in advance for the following statement's lack of humility, but the tone of my blackwood Taylor is what I'm referring to, and yes I'm saying it sounds better (to me obviously) than all the Larrivee L's I've heard. And I do love those also - definitely my favorite of the Larrivees.

                        I guess I'm a sucker for the 3 series L7's. They are the most interesting and unique (due to the use of blackwood) fall limited Taylor has made IMO. They are rare models in an otherwise large herd: there were 471 units produced of the 314 CE, and only 37 units of her 12-string sister 354.
                        1978 T-60 PAF
                        ESP LTD ES1000STBC
                        SST FT Floyd
                        314-CE L7 Blackwood
                        354-CE L7 Blackwood
                        P.O.S. Starfield Guild copy
                        Fender TG-4 travel guitar
                        Charter Member HCBSM
                        Charter Member IKFC
                        IKFC Part II: When Lions Attack

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by t60 fan
                          Please accept my apologies in advance for the following statement's lack of humility, but the tone of my blackwood Taylor is what I'm referring to, and yes I'm saying it sounds better (to me obviously) than all the Larrivee L's I've heard. And I do love those also - definitely my favorite of the Larrivees.

                          I guess I'm a sucker for the 3 series L7's. They are the most interesting and unique (due to the use of blackwood) fall limited Taylor has made IMO. They are rare models in an otherwise large herd: there were 471 units produced of the 314 CE, and only 37 units of her 12-string sister 354.


                          well i haven't played your taylor... haha... actually its been probably 2 years since i've played ANY taylor... i've just given up on them...

                          but thats beside the point... there's nothing arrogant about stating your preferences... so don't apologize.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Cldplytkmn


                            well i haven't played your taylor... haha... actually its been probably 2 years since i've played ANY taylor... i've just given up on them...

                            but thats beside the point... there's nothing arrogant about stating your preferences... so don't apologize.


                            Try a GS, I promise you it won't be a waste of your time.
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                            ESP LTD ES1000STBC
                            SST FT Floyd
                            314-CE L7 Blackwood
                            354-CE L7 Blackwood
                            P.O.S. Starfield Guild copy
                            Fender TG-4 travel guitar
                            Charter Member HCBSM
                            Charter Member IKFC
                            IKFC Part II: When Lions Attack

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by t60 fan


                              Try a GS, I promise you it won't be a waste of your time.


                              i'm going to... i haven't had the need to get out to the guitar shop lately... plus i've been so damn busy... but i know that my usual haunt has a couple GS's hanging there, and i intend on putting them through the paces...
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