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  • Help with used Gibson Les Paul 2012 Satin Fireburst (my first Gibson purchase)

    Hi guys,

    I've been playing guitar for quite some time and usually look at the classifieds for used guitars and amps that may be good offers. I have a modified strat with a fixed bridge and a single humbucker, a SS-S-S pacifica with a Wilkinson trem and sperzels, so a HH seemed like a good addition. The Les Paul bug has bitten me lately and have already tried more than a few on different stores and kind of want to buy one. I don’t want to spend too much (>1k), but sadly only the most expensive ones are left on the stores. I’ve tried a LP Classic 2017, LP Standard 2016, LP Tribute 2017, LP 50’s tribute 2016?, melody maker, faded, and other I don’t remember. Also a few Epiphones, Studio, Traditional Pro and Standard. From all those I clearly remember the Epi Trad Pro and the Gibson LP Classic.

    I found this 2012 Gibson Les Paul Satin Fireburst for 600CHF (for simplicity let’s say 1CHF = 1USD) which seemed like a good deal to me. I think this would be the equivalent to the current Les paul Studio Faded 2016 T, but with different pickups and minus the coil splitting feature. After doing some research this are the specs that I have been able to find:

    Serial Number: 118521381
    Brand: Gibson
    Model: 2012 Les Paul Studio
    Code: LPSTSFCHI
    Finish Color: Satin Fireburst
    Weight: 8.46 lbs
    Top Wood: Carved Maple
    Body Wood: Modern Weight Relieved Mahogany
    Neck Wood: Mahogany
    Neck Shape: 1960's Slim Taper
    Fingerboard: Granadillo
    Fingerboard Radius: 12"
    Inlays: Pearloid Trapezoid
    Scale Length: 24.75"
    Width at Nut: 1 11/16"
    Frets: 22
    Pickups: 490R and 498T with Push/Pull Coil Taps
    Magnets: AlNiCo II (neck) and AlNiCo V (bridge)
    Controls: 2 Volume, 2 Tone, 3-Way Selector
    Hardware : Chrome
    Bridge: Tune-O-Matic
    Tailpiece: Stopbar
    Tuners: Vintage Style "Kluson Deluxe"
    Case: Gibson USA Case (also included with this guitar)

    What do you think? First, it is not a fake, right? Should I go for it? A friend has a Gibson LP with the same pickups and he says they are great, althought I have not played it myself I do like the sound.

    The ’16 Les Pauls, either Studio faded, 50’s tribute or 60’s tribute, go for 900CHF locally and 780CHF online. I would be saving up to 300CHF with the used one, plus if I ever want to sell it I might be able to get back close to what I paid, which will never happen with a brand-new guitar. I’m thinking about offering him 500CHF or my Yamaha Pacifica 604w (4 single coils in HSS, sperzel locking tuners and Wilkinson V100 tremolo) plus 200CHF.

    Thanks a lot for reading and for your advise,

    Cheers,
    Walter

    P.S. If you live in Zürich and want to get together and jam, send me a PM.

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    I am far from being a LP expert and have trouble sorting out all the different models and features. My understanding of the Studio series is that they are guitars built with the top of the line components but with less showy wood and finish, no binding or other bling. The ideas is that in a studio no one cares what it looks like, the sound is the important thing.

    Second, as the repair dude, what I always look for in a used guitar are the things that need repair - duh. A five year old guitar can be showing fret and fretboard wear if its been played a lot - check this and know what it costs to have refretted if needed. Check the action and playability, make sure you like the pickups (I certainly don't need coil splitting, do you?)

    Is it worth the price? Probably if everything checks out. I have been particularly unimpressed by what I've seen recently from Gibson so it might be a better choice than buying something new. Let us know what you decide

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    • #3
      Looks real to me. The 490 R pick-up is nice. I use it a lot.
      I have a different T pick-up. I have 2 Les Pauls - a 2017 Faded
      and a 2015 Special.

      I like Les Pauls. But they're heavy to me. My Faded LP has weighs
      about 6 1/2 lbs. It is still heavy if you ask me. But it plays & sounds
      great. The one you are buying weighs more I think.
      Last edited by Etienne Rambert; 11-06-2017, 02:00 PM.
      He has escaped! Youtube , ​Murika , France

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Freeman Keller View Post
        Is it worth the price? Probably if everything checks out. I have been particularly unimpressed by what I've seen recently from Gibson so it might be a better choice than buying something new. Let us know what you decide
        This is true, I tried a 2016 LP 50's Tribute and was disappointed by it, I actually liked a Epi Trad Pro better. I saw an Epi LP Standard on sale with a Harley Benton 40W amp for 250CHF, which seems like a pretty sweet deal to me. I will give it a try and like a friend said, it will help me to get used to the shorter scale and knob position, also to the shape of the guitar and neck; this should help me get started in the LP world. If I feel the need for a "better" or "real" Les Paul I can search for her with time until I find THE ONE.

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