Members Big_anda12 Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 I've been playing guitar for two years now through under 20 watt amps (for a year I played through a 30 watt bass amp... yikes) and I'm looking to get a nice big amp. I have a shecter hellraiser c-1 and a Gibson 50's tribute SG, but mostly use my Shecter. I'm started to get good enough to get into metal (Slayer, Sylosis, Pantera) and I want to get a great amp to get a nice metal tone for it. I usually run through a Boss D-1 distortion pedal (looking to get a better one in the future). I've been turned off of the idea of a Fender Mustan III or IV (V.2) because I've heard it doesn't sound that great. What I'd really like the Mustang for are the presets that it has built in and the 4 button switch it comes with. I've been looking at getting myself an Ibanez TSA-15 head and a Bugera 212V amp. I'm wondering if this would be a good combination to go for (i'd like to get nice clean tones and heavily distorted tones). I've heard mixed reviews about Bugera amps but for the most part they sound like a pretty decent 2x12 cab. I'd probably eventually replace the stock speakers with Celestions because I've heard they are very good speakers. I also know basically nothing about tube amps so if someone could provide a basic over view of them I'd be forever grateful (maybe not forever). If you think both of these options are terrible feel free to leave some amp suggestions, I'd go for anything under $600 at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BobF_ Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 I've had a Laney IRT Studio for a few months now. Nice amp. Check one out if you get a chance. I'm not familiar with other Laney models ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big_anda12 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 I've heard good things about Laney, I'll check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 I've heard good things about Orange amps but their lower end stuff is hybrid rather than all tube if that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Davo171 Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 Get a Hot Rod Deluxe, use it for sparkly fender cleans, and use a pedal for metal tones. Sounds good at low volumes and more than enough power for playing with a group. All the Ibanez head does is add a tube screamer (you can find a tubescreamer cheap enough) and its only 15 watts. A 2x12 is not needed for a 15 watt head, though granted it might sound good. You might like the Bugera V-22, btw if you need a 2x12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speakerjones Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 Lots of options, especially if you're considering used gear as well. If you're playing metal and intend to join a band or at least jam with others, 15 watts is going to be pretty shy. It may get loud enough overall, but I don't imagine the clean headroom on that Ibanez would be that impressive. The HRD as mentioned is a pretty safe bet. Lots of them out there, and with the right pedal you can certainly get good high gain tones. I would take a look at Jet City amps too. If you're patient, you can find some great deals on American made tube amps. I saw a Mesa 50 Cal show up not that long ago for $550. Granted it's an older amp, but it will long outlive the budget amps of today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DaleH Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 [video=youtube;1MaAoWRV_e4] Beautiful cleans with loads of gain on tap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 Lots of options' date=' especially if you're considering used gear as well. . . .[/quote'] ^ This. I don't know where you are but I just checked the local (St. Louis) CraigsList and found a number of good tube amps in the $350-575 range. One that caught my attention was a Peavey Windsor head and Marshall 1960A cab for $450. Lots of amp for metal or anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 I'd recommend you check out the Bogner Uberschall pedal. Great metal tone. With that you can use pretty much any amp with a nice clean sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big_anda12 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 I live in the islands where getting used gear can be pretty hard. I'd either order off of ebay or amazon and get it shipped down here. I've only just heard about Bugera recently but it's sounding very appealing. The other amps listed are a bit out of my price range. This Bugera in particular http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007KZQNDQ/ref=s9_simh_gw_p267_d0_i2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=desktop-1&pf_rd_r=11JZ0W5VC434C7HTK2SN&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=2079475242&pf_rd_i=desktop is what I'm looking at right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BobF_ Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 Get a Hot Rod Deluxe, use it for sparkly fender cleans, and use a pedal for metal tones. Sounds good at low volumes and more than enough power for playing with a group. All the Ibanez head does is add a tube screamer (you can find a tubescreamer cheap enough) and its only 15 watts. A 2x12 is not needed for a 15 watt head, though granted it might sound good. You might like the Bugera V-22, btw if you need a 2x12. I also have a V22 (Combo). Sweet amp for clean to grit. I can't say about pedals with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 Pardon my ignorance but what do you mean by "the islands"? The Caribbean? The Islands, NC? Hawaii? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big_anda12 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 The Caribbean, sorry if I wasn't clear enough. It's pretty tricky getting used gear down here unless you ship it in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members speakerjones Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 Well, Bugera is probably your cheapest option for a tube amp. I've heard mixed reviews overall from "best amp evar!1!!" to "it caught fire and burned my studio to the ground". The only one I have direct experience with is the V22 which sounds just OK to me. You might want to take a second to think of why they are the cheapest option. Bugera amps are part of the Behringer company which has made their name selling knock-off, disposable audio products to the bottom of the market. In recent years they've consolidated their manufacturing, bought a bunch of other companies, and are trying to turn their name around. To me, they're still a despicable company that I won't buy even the smallest product from. That's just me though. Plenty of guys here will sing their praises. If I were looking for an amp with your budget, I would be looking at Jet City, Blackstar, and some of Peavey's offerings. I'm willing to bet you can find a Peavey Valveking or 6505 combo. With just a quick look on ebay, I found this, which is what I would probably buy. It might end up over your budget after shipping, but it's a high quality, well-built amp with some great tones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members billybilly Posted September 11, 2015 Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 I also have a V22 (Combo). Sweet amp for clean to grit. I can't say about pedals with it I love mine, takes pedals very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big_anda12 Posted September 11, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 11, 2015 Thanks guys, lots of great information coming from this post and I couldn't be happier. I'll be sure to check out each and every suggestion to help make my final decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orourke Posted September 12, 2015 Members Share Posted September 12, 2015 Some of the combo amps mentioned here seem to make sense, but keep in mind that if you are getting into metal or even high gain classic rock some kind of closed back speaker cabinet might appeal to you. Closed back cabs have much tighter low end than open back combos. Just something to think about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted September 12, 2015 Members Share Posted September 12, 2015 If you're in Trinidad pm me and I can hook you up with a good local source for music gear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big_anda12 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2015 Unfortunately, I'm in the BVI, the smallest of the small. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Shooter.556 Posted September 15, 2015 Members Share Posted September 15, 2015 If your budget was higher I'd suggest the EVH 5150iii 1x12. I just bought one and I'm highly impressed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big_anda12 Posted September 15, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 15, 2015 I've decided that I'm going to just go for a Peavey Bandit 112. But now I have another question. I have a decent sized room and to be honest I don't care for nosie pollution since most of my neighbors aren't around full time anyway. So what I really want to know is, Will 80-100 watts completely decimate my house? Talking in terms of extreme loudness here. What I want to know is would I be able to just come home and practice for an hour without going completely deaf and at the same time not disturb the neighbors too much. Also, if anyone knows a pretty good melo-death distortion pedal I wouldn't mind hearing about one of those aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted September 16, 2015 Members Share Posted September 16, 2015 I've decided that I'm going to just go for a Peavey Bandit 112. . . . So what I really want to know is' date=' Will 80-100 watts completely decimate my house? Talking in terms of extreme loudness here. What I want to know is would I be able to just come home and practice for an hour without going completely deaf and at the same time not disturb the neighbors too much. . . .[/quote'] The 12" Blue Marvel speaker in the Bandit 112 is speced at 96.5 dB at 1 meter with 1 Watt input (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1017383-REG/peavey_488080_12_blue_marvel_classic_1238.html). 80 Watts represents another 19 dB so you're talking about 115.5 dB, which is pretty loud. Granted, you'll probably be sitting further from the amp than 1 meter but it will be plenty loud. Personally, I'd be concerned about hearing damage if you're really going to crank it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Big_anda12 Posted September 16, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 16, 2015 I probably wouldn't be cranking it most of the time, just every now and then when I feel like it (very rarely) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gdsmithtx Posted September 16, 2015 Members Share Posted September 16, 2015 Hehe. I have all three amps you asked about (Mustang III v2, TSA15 combo, and Bugera v22 combo). I like them all for different reasons. As far as metal-type distortion pedals for your Bandit 112, you can get a tremendous range of sounds for not much coin from: EHX Metal MuffDigitech Hardwire SC-2 Valve DistortionDigitech Hardwire TL-2 Metal DistortionMXR Super Badass (or alternately the MXR Custom Badass Modified OD) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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