Members skycanyon Posted August 30, 2015 Members Share Posted August 30, 2015 I've heard this sound used by different guitarist over the years, but don't know how it's done. It's not the sustain or reverb I'm noticing, rather some kind of tone shaping that I sometimes call gurgling inside a pipe. There are more extreme examples but I just happened to have this Ernie Isley link. Starts about 8 seconds in ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted August 30, 2015 Members Share Posted August 30, 2015 Sounds like a Leslie speaker slowing down at the beginning. The rest sounds like flanger and whammy bar. I didn't go all the way to the end though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted August 30, 2015 Members Share Posted August 30, 2015 The inside a pipe comment says flanger to me as well. Almost squeaky, but in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thatsbunk Posted August 30, 2015 Members Share Posted August 30, 2015 sounds "flangery-reverby" to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skycanyon Posted August 31, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 I found a video that demonstrates many effects. Flange was not included, but phaser was close. I'll look around for flange so I can figure out the differences. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members skycanyon Posted August 31, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 Yeah that Pink Floyd clip is good subtle use. I've compared the flanger and phaser samples and there's some similarity to my ear. But they have the same problem--more noticeable with the flanger--in that the rate or sweep effect can be annoying. Ideally these boxes would let you pick a particular sweet spot in the rate/sweep and just stay there a while! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrguitarhack Posted August 31, 2015 Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 I think it might be a leslie/phase shifter with a wah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sammyreynolds01 Posted August 31, 2015 Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 sounds like a leslie with a wah wah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted August 31, 2015 Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 Yep - that's the key. Don't want it warbling around. The difference with flanging is that squeaky high end that makes the artificial harmonics jump out. Stereo flange with 2 amps is sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted August 31, 2015 Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 to me there is some dirt (soft use of a fuzz or an overdrive) into a flanger (could be an mxr flanger or an ehx electric mistress but on the subtle side with less regen) into a delay where the mix knob is very low so you almost do not hear the single repeats and at the end some reverb the key is the dirt flanger combination, flanger alone will sound too sterile, compare with police "message in a bottle", thats what flangers do on clean sounds.the pink floyd example shows what the subtle use of a big muff pedal with a flanger can do, do not use too much gain and not too much volume, adjust the highs to match the wanted tone and add a delay... voila Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jtr654 Posted August 31, 2015 Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 For that Era (early 70's) it has to be Phaser, echo, reverb and fuzz/overdrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted August 31, 2015 Members Share Posted August 31, 2015 I remember "Who's That Lady?" when it came out. At the time, I was able to get close with a fuzz pedal into a phase shifter. [video=youtube;f3Kf1Iy5E6U] The track in the OP, which came out ten or so years later, sounds similar but with a flanger instead of a phase shifter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlamoJoe Posted September 1, 2015 Members Share Posted September 1, 2015 Probably a Fuzz Face going into a Mutron Phaser. Ernest Isley worshipped Hendrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Grant Harding Posted September 1, 2015 Members Share Posted September 1, 2015 Yeah - his early stuff was all phaser, but the OP still sounds like flanger to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted September 1, 2015 Members Share Posted September 1, 2015 I remember "Who's That Lady?" when it came out. At the time, I was able to get close with a fuzz pedal into a phase shifter. [video=youtube;f3Kf1Iy5E6U] The track in the OP, which came out ten or so years later, sounds similar but with a flanger instead of a phase shifter. yep thats definitely a phaser, OP video and this are a great example whats the difference between phaser and flanger is, although technically they are pretty similar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skycanyon Posted September 1, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2015 Interesting you should mention "Who's that Lady" I'm generally anti-synth, but that cheesy old-school synth riff the Isley Brothers added is a big ole kick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members skycanyon Posted September 1, 2015 Author Members Share Posted September 1, 2015 I heard Hendrix lived in the Isley's mom's house for about two years while he was starting his career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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