Members gardo Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 My Strat blows my Tele away in almost every catagory but the Tele is still my go to guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members t_e_l_e Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 i like my tele, but for it is my strat.... and i have thought a lot of times to mod the tele, adding a bigsby to itand to see if it would make me more happy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 Can I ask a strange question? Are you using the tele for playing or for writing?I can see some rationale for using a more basic guitar for composition because everything that comes out of a strat is flavored and it can be good to compose songs in vanilla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gardo Posted August 12, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 Can I ask a strange question? Are you using the tele for playing or for writing? I can see some rationale for using a more basic guitar for composition because everything that comes out of a strat is flavored and it can be good to compose songs in vanilla Casual playing / noodeling. The flavoing of the Strat does inspire me but so so does the Tele vanilly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 My main stage guitars are Les Paul, Tele and Strat but for a long time it was just Strat and 335. Compared to the Gibson, the Strat always needed help. When it got the help (boost) it was really big and fat but with clarity. The Gibsons, especially the Les Paul, was always fat and sometimes lacked the clarity of the Strat. For me, the Telecaster fits nicely with either the LP or the Strat and is a great "in between" guitar. There is a certain snappiness in there that sets it apart from other guitars and it can be used to give more twang to the country music and a real punch to blues and rock. I have two Teles and two Strats - I respect them all equally for what they bring to the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 Can I pick "Neither"? Seriously, for the most part I think Teles are butt ugly but I hate dealing with a trem. A hardtail Strat with at least one humbucker and you've got a deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members gardo Posted August 12, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 My main stage guitars are Les Paul, Tele and Strat but for a long time it was just Strat and 335. Compared to the Gibson, the Strat always needed help. When it got the help (boost) it was really big and fat but with clarity. The Gibsons, especially the Les Paul, was always fat and sometimes lacked the clarity of the Strat. For me, the Telecaster fits nicely with either the LP or the Strat and is a great "in between" guitar. There is a certain snappiness in there that sets it apart from other guitars and it can be used to give more twang to the country music and a real punch to blues and rock. I have two Teles and two Strats - I respect them all equally for what they bring to the music. Tell me more about boost. I don't like high gain but boost is different. The Strat is already louder and deeper sounding than the Tele..I set the eq's on by amp baisclly to the max.iis this somewhat a boost. ? The amp I'm using right now is a Fender Princeton Cnorus (solid state) and I barely get the volume over 2 at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted August 12, 2015 Members Share Posted August 12, 2015 Can I ask a strange question? Are you using the tele for playing or for writing? I can see some rationale for using a more basic guitar for composition because everything that comes out of a strat is flavored and it can be good to compose songs in vanilla Can you elaborate on this flavouring? Not sure I get this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gardo Posted August 13, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 Can you elaborate on this flavouring? Not sure I get this. They're just different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Into Nation Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 My tele and LP made me hate my Strat. I can't play it without accidentally mucking with the volume knob. No way I can play a strat without moving that pot out of the way now. I've really tried but palm muting mucks with it every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Juicy Elk Man Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 I don't like the pickup and control configuration of a stock strat - so the tele wins there. I don't like the tele's non-contoured slab body - the strat wins in that department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members onelife Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 Tell me more about boost. I don't like high gain but boost is different. The Strat is already louder and deeper sounding than the Tele..I set the eq's on by amp baisclly to the max.iis this somewhat a boost. ? The amp I'm using right now is a Fender Princeton Cnorus (solid state) and I barely get the volume over 2 at home In the mid '70s, I had a Master Volume Twin Reverb. A Les Paul would drive the amp into a nice creamy distortion but I couldn't quite get there with a Strat. I ended up using an Ibanez Analog Delay with separate input and output level controls to boost the signal from the Strat up to the same level as the Les Paul. Personally, I find a telecaster has more output than a stratocaster and the strat pickups have a more even response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wankdeplank Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 I've been through three Teles and just couldn't find the one I guess. Strats on the other hand, have come and never leave. I have three now with another Aria Pro II Bobcat that is technically a Strat as well (little different body shape). I've found that I can switch back and forth between LP and Strat type guitars with little or no adjustment, but a Tele takes a bit of adjustment as the neck feels a bit further out. Also, I discovered that the thing I liked most about Teles, (twang) was something I could get just as well from a couple of my Strats (like Tele's, some are twangier than others). And of course, Strats are just so comfortable to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 Can you elaborate on this flavouring? Not sure I get this. Okay, when I sit down to write rather than "noodle" I tend to use an acoustic or basic single pickup guitar because the strat has so many tone options it is easy to get drawn into writing around the textures. This is wrong because (hopefully) your song is going to be performed on a lot of different instruments so you can't write it around, say, the tone of position 4 on a strat. If you listen to good songwriting, Bread are a good example, you can tell the stuff was crafted around the chords not the guitar tone. The tone certainly comes into the record production process but the songs can be played fine by uncle John picking up an acoustic at Christmas. The opposite type of writing is people like Vai who produce, not so much "songs" as tone poems(?) that require a specific electric combination and are definitely not transferable to a guy in a bar with an acoustic. Basically we are talking song-centric writing vs guitar-centric writing. Here is a nice example of simple composition, although they are actually playing electric you could play it on any guitar. [video=youtube_share;K4R93xnKink] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members knotty Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 Okay, when I sit down to write rather than "noodle" I tend to use an acoustic or basic single pickup guitar because the strat has so many tone options it is easy to get drawn into writing around the textures. This is wrong because (hopefully) your song is going to be performed on a lot of different instruments so you can't write it around, say, the tone of position 4 on a strat. If you listen to good songwriting, Bread are a good example, you can tell the stuff was crafted around the chords not the guitar tone. The tone certainly comes into the record production process but the songs can be played fine by uncle John picking up an acoustic at Christmas. The opposite type of writing is people like Vai who produce, not so much "songs" as tone poems(?) that require a specific electric combination and are definitely not transferable to a guy in a bar with an acoustic. Basically we are talking song-centric writing vs guitar-centric writing. Here is a nice example of simple composition, although they are actually playing electric you could play it on any guitar. [video=youtube_share;K4R93xnKink] Ok thanks I see what you mean. I would have thought a clean setting would give the same result, but im not a writer so know jack really. Thanks for the explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Chordite Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 It's a matter of avoiding temptation, with the Strat clean is an option, with a Tele it's compulsory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danhedonia Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 ^^^^ Great post. Of course, everyone has different writing styles, sometimes more than one. I understand exactly what you were posting about, but find that my best writing efforts come from sounds that form in my head, and then need to find a way to the surface via a guitar and etc. Nothing wrong with a great riff, but unless you're doing an instrumental, it needs to find a home. When I worked with developing artists, one thing I tried to emphasize was that popularity was hugely related to the vocal performance, in terms of potential sales / airplay. Note I'm not saying that's right, it's just that most people don't listen for only guitar - they appreciate great guitar in addition to a great vocal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members WRGKCM Posted August 13, 2015 Members Share Posted August 13, 2015 When writing I go to one of my soundproof studios. I then put on my sensory deprivation kit - noise cancellers, nose plugs and dark goggles in a darkened room. This allows me to focus properly, unfortunately it does not help me find the guitar. So I have never actually got to write anything yet. I am however sure the theory is sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gardo Posted August 14, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 14, 2015 Personally, I find a telecaster has more output than a stratocaster and the strat pickups have a more even response. My Strat is louder but the Tele is not a true single coil guitar,I use noiseless pickups maybe that has something to do with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gardo Posted August 14, 2015 Author Members Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's a matter of avoiding temptation' date=' with the Strat clean is an [i']option[/i], with a Tele it's compulsory. True but strat clean and tele clean are still different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Guitarax Posted August 15, 2015 Members Share Posted August 15, 2015 Stratocaster. Preferably a recent American Standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DeepEnd Posted August 15, 2015 Members Share Posted August 15, 2015 It's a matter of avoiding temptation' date=' with the Strat clean is an [i']option[/i], with a Tele it's compulsory. Probably why I write stuff using an acoustic, that and I'm just an acoustic guy at heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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